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Candle3
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Message 58 of 83 (921580)
01-17-2025 1:10 PM
Reply to: Message 46 by Taq
07-11-2024 3:24 PM


Re: No Creator Owes Anyone Anything
Taq, you quoted jar:
"Particularly all the little children and animals that did
nothing to deserve death."
***I find it to be hypocritical when one condemns God for
killing while supporting the murder of little babies in their
mother's womb.
They praise the sick doctor who rips their small arms and
legs off.
Babies have been heard to scream in pain. After the fluid
gushes out of the womb, sound carries quite well.
After all, many of the firstborn Egyptians were grownups.
The ones that God killed will one day be brought back in
the 2nd resurrection and offered their opportunity for
eternal life.

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Message 60 of 83 (921584)
01-17-2025 3:30 PM
Reply to: Message 59 by Taq
01-17-2025 3:14 PM


Re: No Creator Owes Anyone Anything
Taq, you wrote:
"Do you condemn those who perform abortions? If so, why don't you condemn God for the same thing?"
***I ask you the same thing.
Since you condemn God for killing, do you also condemn
those who kill babies in their mother's womb.
What God takes He can give back. Humans who take life
cannot do so.
I trust God. And, I trust His judgements.
I do not trust humans to be infallible.

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Message 62 of 83 (921605)
01-18-2025 2:50 PM
Reply to: Message 61 by Taq
01-17-2025 4:23 PM


Re: No Creator Owes Anyone Anything
Taq, you, as well as other so-called atheists, spend an ungodly
amount of time speaking of a "Being" that you don't believe in.
Romans 1:19-20 states that God's creation is proof of His
existence. His existence is so obvious that those who deny
Him are without excuse.
God does not allow His followers to kill others. He does not
allow us to hate others, or to steal from them. He forbids us
from harboring animosity towards our fellow humans.
The world's problems, and they are many, are not a result of
keeping God's Holy Laws and Commandments.
Do some so-called men of God twist God's laws to fit their own
agendas? Yes, but they do not speak for God.
You asked "Were Egyptian parents given their first born back?"
No! But God has promised to do so in the 2nd resurrection.
Those returned to life in the 2nd resurrection will be resurrected
as flesh and blood, mortal humans.
They will then be taught God's laws. They will also have access
to God's Holy Spirit. Once they develop God's character (it will
in most instances take years) they will be converted to spirit
beings. They will be adopted into the family of God.
The Egyptians who God killed do not deserve this great gift
from God. No one deserves to become members of the God
family. It is the greatest gift imaginable. It is the gift of a loving
God.
The dead Egyptians are unaware of the passage of time. When
they are resurrected it will be to them that no time has passed
since they died.
The Egyptians worshipped many gods. The 10 plagues
targeted 10 of their gods. God showed both the Egyptians
and Israelites that their gods were powerless against Him.
The magicians, Jannes and Jambres, were able to turn their
staffs into serpents by the power of Satan. The 10 Egyptian
Gods were demons.
The showdown with pharaoh has great significance once the
purpose of it is understood.

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Message 64 of 83 (921833)
01-31-2025 9:20 AM
Reply to: Message 63 by Taq
01-21-2025 4:38 PM


Re: No Creator Owes Anyone Anything
Taq: you stated:
"A religion who thinks people are wrong for not believing as
they do. Shocking!!!"
***Well I'll be; the pot calling the kettle black. Evolutionists on
this board attack those who see evolution as a fairy tale. A
ridiculous tale of a frog turning into a prince.
Evolutionists believe in a concept that is not supported by facts.
*No fossils that support their belief (faith).
*No known way to explain the origin of matter. They cannot
explain it by relying on God, or a god, because they would then
have to concede that God could have created all life (forms).
*No known way for life to have come from non-life (faith).
*No thorough concept of how one species evolved into
other species (faith).
*Evolutionists believe that that all diversity on earth is the
result of mutations and natural selection. Because of their
deep faith in evolution they fail to u/s that mutations are a
result of loss of information, not gain. This would be similar
to a gambler losing all his money but claiming to have won.
*They also fail to u/s that natural selection can only select
from what is available. NS cannot select from a gene pool
and DNA that is not in it's makeup.
*Evolutionists believe that nature is conscious, and that it
selects traits that it wants, much like a diner in a
smorgasbord. I'll take this, and one of them.
*Evolutionists cannot replicate what they believe;
therefore, they must have faith that what they BELIEVE
in is right. By the same lack of logic, they must also
believe that iron has the properties that can preserve
blood, veins, collagen, soft tissue, etc for tens of millions
of years. Talk about faith.
I could go on, and on, and on, but evolutionists would still
have the ability to believe what the want to believe.
You wrote: "Those parents have been dead for thousands
of years.
***Correct, and you will also die. We all die. It does not matter
how long one is dead, the individual will be be resurrected
back to physical life.
In the resurrection both parent and child will see each other,
and both will be given the opportunity for eternal life.
Only a loving and generous God would offer this greatest of
opportunity to a mere human.
Jeremiah 31:34; 1 Timothy 2:4; and 2 Peter 3:9 are just a few of the
many verses that prove loves us all the same. He in not a respecter
of persons. He gives everyone who has ever lived the opportunity to
become members of the God family, ant to receive eternal life.
But we do not all receive our opportunity at the same time. Some receive
it during this present age; some receive it in the Kingdom of God; the
remainder receive it in the second resurrection.
And don't pretend that you care about children when you have
no problem with 1.3 million of them being killed in America
every year.

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Candle3
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Message 70 of 83 (921852)
02-01-2025 2:45 PM
Reply to: Message 69 by PaulK
01-31-2025 5:52 PM


Re: Candle3 Lying about Evolution ... AGAIN!
Paulk, you wrote:
"Don’t forget that Candle3 thinks that a bunch of centenarian
Nazis are suddenly going to pop up out of hiding and restore
the Holy Roman Empire. Which was formally dissolved more
than 200 years ago."
***The HRE is not limited in the number of times that it can
come and go. To think so is simplistic.
Many in Europe think back on the HRE and the effect it had on
the world. Many of them would like to see it. It gives Europe a
sense of destiny, of purpose.
It is quite comical when one has no idea who or what the
seven headed, Scarlet colored, beast is, nor the harlot who
rides the beast, they criticize those who do.
The President of Germany, Steinmeier dissolved parliament
to pave way for snap elections on February 23 following the
collapse of Chancellor Olaf Scholz's three way coalition.
The leader on the seventh head will be a German. And this
individual will gain the Chancellorship through flatteries, not
as a result of an election.
The President will appoint him, with the backing of other
prominent politicians.
If this does not happen this round, it will happen soon after.
There is no doubt that it will happen though.
There is one man who fits all that the Bible says of this end
time ruler.
Trump and this man would not get along.

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Message 72 of 83 (921855)
02-01-2025 5:31 PM
Reply to: Message 71 by PaulK
02-01-2025 3:15 PM


Re: Candle3 Lying about Evolution ... AGAIN
Paulk, Trump is for Americans. Illegal immigrants (II) are not
Americans. I have no qualm about helping others, but not
the way Democrats have been doing it.
Illegals have been released from prisons in these countries.
They have been rounded up and sent here.
They come here and are given cell phones, food vouchers,
prepaid credit cards, free schooling and medical. They are
housed in expensive hotels and motels.
They can commit heinous crimes and they will be released
back into the public.
No one can justify this. It is done for several reasons. One of
which is to gather votes for the Democratic candidates.
The point is that Trump is for Americans and American interests.
Trump will have other nations going along with American
interests.
The other man will do the same for Germany. There is already
a division between the U.S. and Germany.
75% of Americans favor a relationship with Germany. But a
mere 25% of Germans are reciprocal.
When Trump pushes them into paying more for NATO, and in
raising tariffs to the same level that they put on us, the
division will grow
To know what is going to happen to countries today it is vital
to know who they are in prophecy.

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Message 74 of 83 (921858)
02-02-2025 7:43 AM
Reply to: Message 68 by dwise1
01-31-2025 5:37 PM


Re: Candle3 Lying about Evolution ... AGAIN!
Dwise, you wrote:
"The origin of matter has nothing whatsoever to do with evolution.
You may as well refute football by complaining that it fails to
explain the origin of matter."
***Sure it does. The fact is that you have no idea about the
origin of matter.
You do not get the benefit of ooze in a murky pond in which
life came about. You must first explain how the material came
to be.
You must also explain how the law that life cannot come from
non-life was breached.
I know the answers to these questions.
Also, Schweitzer did find blood cells and soft tissue in a
supposedly 75,000,000 T-Rex fossil.
But, she is not the only who has done so.
I am not about to list them all; you would only call them liars,
or insist that they are mistaken.
However, Maidment and Bertazoo found nucleus of red blood
cells and amino acid that make up collagen in 75,000,000 year
old fossils of what they believe to be from a triceratops, a
duck-billed dino; and, a carnivorous theropod.
Curators will not allow pieces to be snapped pieces of of my
whole fossils. Samples that are tested must come from
fragmentary pieces of fossils that are in relatively poor
conditions.
Imagine what they would find in well-preserved fossils.
They hoped that the red blood was from a finger cut, but it
was not human.
Some now wonder if even dinosaur DNA could be found.
Hard-core evolutionists insist the the fossils were somehow
contaminated.
Stop wasting your life on this garbage. It's a dead end.

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Message 75 of 83 (921860)
02-02-2025 10:13 AM
Reply to: Message 68 by dwise1
01-31-2025 5:37 PM


Re: Candle3 Lying about Evolution ... AGAIN!
Dwise, there are more 100 scientific papers acknowledging
that blood vessels, collagen fibers, C-18, and even intact
fragments of DNA have been found in fossils that date back
multiple millions of years.
These examples are now referred to some as "common."
Nature Magazine was the first to use this term.
The half life of C-14 is 5730 years. After 50,000 to 60,000
years the remaining would be low to detect.
Evolutionists claim that leech in contaminants is the source
of the C-14. If contaminants affect all date testing methods,
how can these methods be trusted?
A fragmented triceratops horn, found in the Hell Creek
formation contained tissue, cells, protein. The horn was
found at a depth of one foot. It would have been through
Many multiple periods of hot and cold.
Samples at the bottom rock layers (500,000,000 years)
have been found that contain protein.

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Candle3
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Message 76 of 83 (921861)
02-02-2025 12:51 PM
Reply to: Message 71 by PaulK
02-01-2025 3:15 PM


Re: Candle3 Lying about Evolution ... AGAIN
Paulk, you wrote:
"No. To think that a particular state can just come back 200
years after it was dissolved is simplistic. The component
parts have gone their own ways for too long."
***The territory that was in the HRE is still there. The Catholic
Church is still there. Descendants of the citizens of the empire
is still there. And what God says about this empire (beast) is
still there.
Many Europeans can trace their ancestry back hundreds of
years. I know of a German count who traced his heritage back
to the 1100.
You wrote: "Funny you make him sound exactly like the kind
if guy Trump would get on with - like Vladimir Putin or
Kim Jong-un."
***Jung-un and Putin started no wars while Trump was in
office. And Trump never ran off and deserved our soldiers;
personnel of four allies, and nearly 100 billion dollars of
Sophisticated weaponry in Afghanistan.
You wrote:
"sure you know. It’s not more of the nonsense that your
silly cult puts out like the English being Israelites or
110-year-old Nazis suddenly coming back and taking over.

Really how can anyone believe that rot?
***You have no idea who Israel is. You think that all are Jews.
You ignore so much scripture in order to believe this.
Moses describes the blessings God gave each tribe in
Deuteronomy 33. They are all living separately. Notice what
Moses promised Joseph (Ephraim and Manasseh) in verses
13-17.
Also notice what Jacob says about his son's and their
respected tribes in Genesis 49. Judah (the Jews) are in
verses 9-12. The Jews receive a promise that the Messiah
would come through them, which He did.
Verses 22-26 lists the blessings of Joseph (Ephraim and
Manasseh). Reuben (much of France) was the firstborn, but
he slept with his father's concubine, so the blessings were
given to Joseph's two sons
France has had some power through the years, but they were
never the strongest nation.
Jacob (Israel) in Genesis 48 bestows the material blessings
on Ephraim and Manasseh.
But, even more than that, he bestows his very name (his name
was Israel) on them(v. 16). One was to become a company of
nations; the other to become a single great nation.
The birthright blessings were withheld from them for 2500
years because of the sins. Not going into that here.
In 2 Kings 16:1-6 (KJV) the first place where the word Jew is
used they are fighting a battle against Israel.

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Message 80 of 83 (921887)
02-03-2025 1:43 PM
Reply to: Message 77 by dwise1
02-02-2025 1:06 PM


Re: Candle3 Lying about Evolution ... AGAIN!
Dwise, stop acting like a wild man; you are running off at the
mouth because I am not buying the lies of evolutionists.
If you honestly believe this propaganda crap that you spew,
then you are indeed very gullible.
Personally, I don't think that you believe it. You just do not
wish to accept the alternative.

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