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AZPaul3
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Message 1 of 24 (918205)
04-23-2024 4:19 PM


With ChatGPT as a member now I have revisited a half-dozen rabbit holes I have fallen into so many times these last 50 years on the subjects of AI, intellect, consciousness, free will, the lists go on. Fun stuff.
I’m not sure I can carry a whole thread of discussion, I’m becoming a bit scattered myself, but I’d like to open a discussion on the fear aspect we see for AI.
A Super AI, as IBM defines it is
quote:
If ever realized, Super AI would think, reason, learn, make judgements and possess cognitive abilities that surpass those of human beings. The applications possessing Super AI capabilities will have evolved beyond the point of understanding human sentiments and experiences to feel emotions, have needs and possess beliefs and desires of their own.
Understanding the different types of artificial intelligence - IBM Blog
What is the big fear with AI?
So we create an artificial 5-year old that happens to be a savant in math or music or medicine. Like any impressionable child with nascent emotions, it will need guidance and correction. I do not see these things being left to rampage and run amok trained on only the worst of human feelings.
What we fear is their use by us, their training by us. We should not fear the AI but the trainer. So what's different from today's kids?

“There’s simply no polite way to tell people they’ve dedicated their lives to an illusion,”
-Daniel Dennett
Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!

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AZPaul3
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Message 16 of 24 (918265)
04-24-2024 9:12 PM
Reply to: Message 13 by Taq
04-24-2024 4:14 PM


Wait! What?
You want to make Chat into a brain-dead creationist? Brain-dead is already there but a creationist?! Why would you want to poison a new innocent silicon mind with the stupidity of religion? Taq you're a monster.

“There’s simply no polite way to tell people they’ve dedicated their lives to an illusion,”
-Daniel Dennett
Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!

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AZPaul3
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Message 20 of 24 (918281)
04-25-2024 8:21 AM
Reply to: Message 18 by Phat
04-25-2024 3:25 AM


Re: The Utility of an EvC ChatBot.
One question in my mind is what we expect from an AI Chatbot.
Shouldn't have much in the way of expectations about a talking cardboard box. This one, though, is full of encyclopedia. ChatGPT's utility is limited to researching existing literature and writing summaries of that research. ChatGPT is like a Wikipedia bot but with a weird name. The data and opinions it expresses are not its own.

“There’s simply no polite way to tell people they’ve dedicated their lives to an illusion,”
-Daniel Dennett
Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!

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