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Tangle
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Message 1 of 19 (917086)
03-21-2024 11:25 AM


I see he's back and has brought his random CAPITALISATION and faux logic with him. Why is it that these religionists can't think in straight lines but believe that they can? He breaks all his own fallacies and can't seem to see it.
He does the pigeon chess thing of flying in, knocking the pieces over, shitting on the board and flying off again declaring victory to his fellow morons at his fairy tales site. It's incredibly tedious and childish.
I wonder what he thinks he's achieving beyond person grandiosity?

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Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
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Message 2 of 19 (917088)
03-21-2024 12:04 PM
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03-21-2024 11:25 AM


He seems more unhinged and deluded than usual. His posts are pretty conclusive that he doesn't understand the basics of scientific knowledge and progressive nature of scientific observations and how science is reported to the public. He's pissed off because because scientific discovery and knowledge is cumulative.

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Message 3 of 19 (917089)
03-21-2024 12:07 PM


And I don't think he wants a discussion, just a perfect forum to spew his Gish Gallops and then run away.

Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!
What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python
One important characteristic of a theory is that it has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie
If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --Percy
The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq
Why should anyone debate someone who doesn't know the subject? -- AZPaul3

  
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Message 4 of 19 (917090)
03-21-2024 1:12 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Tangle
03-21-2024 11:25 AM


RE: Message 1
It seems to me that he conflates several issues. Like Clint Eastwood, He is a Legend in his own mind. I never personally had a problem with Mike as a one-on-one conversationalist. Still, I DO note that he often hits and runs...which stifles any effective communication in our Forum.
Perhaps Mike will see this offshoot topic (since his initial topic won't ever get promoted) and discuss something neutral with us like how the weather is or even global warming.

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Message 5 of 19 (917091)
03-21-2024 1:15 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Tangle
03-21-2024 11:25 AM


The Last Marble
Tangle writes:
Why is it that these religionists can't think in straight lines but believe that they can?
What exactly is a religionist? Is it anything like an elitist? If so, I fully understand you.

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Message 6 of 19 (917092)
03-21-2024 1:16 PM


Reminds me of the type of conversations I imagine ID/creationists having.
Scientist: Why don't you trust scientists?
Mike: They are always changing their minds.
Scientist: What would make you trust scientists more?
Mike: If they changed their mind about Intelligent Design.

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Message 7 of 19 (917093)
03-21-2024 1:34 PM
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03-21-2024 1:16 PM



Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!
What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python
One important characteristic of a theory is that it has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie
If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --Percy
The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq
Why should anyone debate someone who doesn't know the subject? -- AZPaul3

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Message 8 of 19 (917095)
03-21-2024 2:20 PM
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03-21-2024 1:15 PM


Re: The Last Marble
What exactly is a religionist?
You are. You are a believer, a religious nutjob.

Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!

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Message 9 of 19 (917096)
03-21-2024 2:23 PM
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03-21-2024 2:20 PM


Re: The Last Marble
9 writes:
What exactly is a religionist?
You are. You are a believer, a religious nutjob.
I always liked religionator, better!

Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!
What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python
One important characteristic of a theory is that it has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie
If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --Percy
The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq
Why should anyone debate someone who doesn't know the subject? -- AZPaul3

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Message 10 of 19 (917101)
03-21-2024 3:23 PM
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03-21-2024 2:20 PM


Re: The Last Marble
Oh OK, I get it. So then Elitists must have elevated their minds BEYOND God! Got it.
Soon the very mysteries of the universe will be in their databases.

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Message 11 of 19 (917110)
03-21-2024 5:19 PM
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03-21-2024 3:23 PM


Re: The Last Marble
Phat writes:
So then Elitists must have elevated their minds BEYOND God! Got it.
Just beyond the backwards morality and ideas of the Biblical authors.

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Message 12 of 19 (917112)
03-21-2024 9:15 PM
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03-21-2024 3:23 PM


Re: The Last Marble
Oh OK, I get it. So then Elitists must have elevated their minds BEYOND God!
We elites have elevated our minds far beyond any puny fantasies of gods, demons, talking snakes.
Soon the very mysteries of the universe will be in their databases.
A reference to something not in any discussion, but, yes, a lot of that we already have. We really couldn't claim to be elite if we didn't.

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Message 13 of 19 (917361)
04-03-2024 9:10 PM


I sure would like to see mike the wiz post links to anyone here saying phylogeny recapitulated ontology. Gould wrote extensively about this failed hypothesis clear back in 1977 in his book, Ontogeny and Phylogeny.

Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!
What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python
One important characteristic of a theory is that it has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie
If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --Percy
The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq
Why should anyone debate someone who doesn't know the subject? -- AZPaul3

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Message 14 of 19 (917365)
04-03-2024 9:57 PM
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04-03-2024 9:10 PM


Posts today by mike the wiz look like a clown performance.
(I'm referring to Message 4 and the following post).

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Message 15 of 19 (917367)
04-03-2024 11:06 PM
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04-03-2024 9:57 PM


nwr writes:
Posts today by mike the wiz look like a clown performance.

(I'm referring to Message 4 and the following post).
Yep, that's what prompted my comment. He's completely daft, erroneously trying to pick a fight about a subject that has been properly explained almost 50 years ago by S. J. Gould.

Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!
What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python
One important characteristic of a theory is that it has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie
If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --Percy
The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq
Why should anyone debate someone who doesn't know the subject? -- AZPaul3

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