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Tangle
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Message 1 of 80 (914593)
01-25-2024 8:51 AM


Alabama will kill Keneth Smith today using nitrogen, after previously trying and failing (for four hours) to kill him using lethal injection. They couldn't find a vein. Dear God.
This is the first use of nitrogen to deliberately kill by any state anywhere and is being called torture by objectors.
I'm surprising myself by being angry, ashamed and upset even from this distance - a modern democratic country is murdering its own citizens and in such a half-arsed way. At least in those other parts of the world where the death penalty is used - which happen to be countries none of us would choose to live in - you can expect it to be quick and effective.
Supported by Christians - wtf???
quote:
roughly 75% of white Evangelicals and Protestants favor capital punishment,
Just a moment...

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Tangle
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Message 7 of 80 (914699)
01-29-2024 5:47 PM


I've been a bit quiet waiting to see what people might say. To be frank I'm surprised that the focus has been entirely on the method and not on whether you guys should really be murdering your own citizens with malice and forethought in any way at all.

Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London. Olen Suomi Soy Barcelona. I am Ukraine.

"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.


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Tangle
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Message 38 of 80 (914768)
02-01-2024 1:38 PM
Reply to: Message 16 by ICANT
01-31-2024 8:43 PM


Re: Capital Punishment
ICANT:
The UK had the most barbaric capital punishment method I could think of until the middle of the 18th century and that was burning at the stake. The punishment for heresy was burning at the stake in the end of the 16th century. That was simply because they believed differently than the Church of England.
Just a reminder of your countries ways.
And we stopped. Because it's a fundamental wrong. You guys still do it and seemingly want to still do it. But you don't want to do it quickly. It took you 30 years for this one.
No country in Europe will deport a criminal to the USA who is likely to be found guilty there of a capital crime. Because it's simply a wrong. Not to say violently un-Christian.

Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London. Olen Suomi Soy Barcelona. I am Ukraine.

"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.


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