The Limits of Religious Belief

I think that would be a perfect solution. No need for the religious to interfere with the actions of the secular then eh?

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I don't think so. I have been preaching for 63 years I have never tried to coerce someone to accept my God.

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What's your hobby got to do with anything?

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So when God created mankind in Genesis 1:27 He gave them a body mind and spirit. The body is carnal the mind is where the choices are made. The body wants to do all kinds of things the spirit (which most call a consciences) tells man what is right and wrong. Then the decision is made in the mind. mankind has the ability to choose which he will follow the body or the spirit. Whatever decision man makes is OK with God. He just would rather everybody choose to follow the spirit. But He allows mankind to make any choice they choose to make. He could have created mankind like the angels, and they would not be able to choose what they want.
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But that was not what God wanted. He wanted something He could love and they could choose to love Him back, so He created mankind and gave them the ability to make that choice. He loved us enough to come to earth go to the cross and shed His blood so we could receive a full free pardon.

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Yeh and Bilbo Baggins is a hobbit. I'm an atheist, why are you quoting biblical nonsense at me?

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You and many others here have made the choice that God does not exist, He is a Myth that is OK with me. I just want to make sure when I type something about how you and others can go to heaven I get that right.

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That is why I quote Jesus when He says "ye must be born again". That is accomplished by believing God is and is a rewarder of those who diligently seek Him. When a person does that and trusts Him to give them eternal life they have it at that moment and anytime that a moment becomes now.
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Some of the other things I talk about are speculative just like the BBT and and evolution are. No one in science knows where the material that the universe was created out of began to exist. According to science energy and matter cannot be created. They can be manifest in either form. But where did it come from? Science says we don't know so it has to be assumed it just did and we will go from there. That is not science. What is the origin of life on earth. We don't know but we assume some chemicals or something got together and life was formed. We can not prove that is the way it happened so we will assume that is what happened and we will go from there. That isn't science either.

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ICANT, you're as deluded in your pseudoscience as you are in your mythology. Give it a rest I'm not interested in hearing either from you.
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If I remember anything from my science class it is that anything that cannot be reproduced in a Labatory is not a fact. Then maybe I was taught wrong.

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Who are you trying to kid you never went to s science class - if you had you might not be chanting such bollox.
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Tangle just remember that people do whatever they want to do. If they want to kill somebody they will. If they want to get drunk and get in a car and drive it a 100 mph they will. Everything we do outwardly is because of the choices we make. An remember people do what they want to do always. I can't change them and neither can you.

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More rubbish. Secular laws can and do change behaviour. And so do your pulpit threats of everlasting damnation - for some. It's called deterrence and it's very real.
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“We” and other more civilised countries don't, the USA does. The reason is because you have virtually unrestricted access to guns and a culture of using them. We have crime because crime is normal. In your terms god made us that way. In scientific terms we're evolved apes and have many of their competive and survival traits. Our civilisation tries to moderate criminal tendencies with laws and punishments for breaking them, it works but is only a flawed and partial cure.
​ Now tell me why some people do those things and why most people do not.

According to Simon Blackburn, the Golden Rule "can be found in some form in almost every ethical tradition".[20] A multi-faith poster showing the Golden Rule in sacred writings from 13 faith traditions (designed by Paul McKenna of Scarboro Missions, 2000) has been on permanent display at the Headquarters of the United Nations since 4 January 2002.[21] Creating the poster "took five years of research that included consultations with experts in each of the 13 faith groups."[21]Rather nice image that I can't make appear is here in the Religious context:Golden Rule - Wikipedia

Given that you tell us you're not shy and that you're happy to write thousands of words on practically any other subject there must be other reasons you won't tell us about your conversations and experiences with this god of yours.Us not believing you can't be the reason as you know that we don't believe a word you write about anything but you write anyway. So what is it?I mean, here you are a witness, holding actual evidence of god in the world, but all you can do is brag about it. Sharing is caring, let's hear all about it.