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Author Topic:   Israel Declares War For The First Time Since 1973.
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Message 8 of 378 (913079)
10-10-2023 3:12 PM
Reply to: Message 7 by Percy
10-10-2023 2:19 PM


Re: Israel is Reaping What it Sowed
I admit to not following the region closely
Yeah I don't follow events in the Middle East very closely either.
The latest attacks by Hamas were predictable and I am fine with every single one of the terrorist perpetrators being killed. The lives of Palestinians is atrocious and has been since Israel was formed in 1948 and the Israelis have had all the power for more than 75 years and their policy has always seemed to be subjugation. This has also, ironically, forced all those terrorist organizations to hide among innocent blockaded Palestinians so Israeli retaliation always kills many innocents, further fueling hatred and future terrorist attacks.
After 75 years maybe the Israelis should rethink their long term strategy. Until they do, I don't support aid from the U.S.

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Message 49 of 378 (913199)
10-16-2023 7:01 PM
Reply to: Message 47 by Phat
10-16-2023 3:22 PM


Re: War Update from BBC
Phat in Message 47 writes:
Taiwan is a bit nervous also. Imagine a third front opening there...while our navy is busy backing Israel!
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I think that the US military-industrial complex is feeding the wars. Is this true?
Well, the U.S. spends more per year on our military than all the rest of the world combined, several times over, the last I heard. Hypothetically we should be able to fight and win any conventional (non-nuclear) world war.

Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!
What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python
One important characteristic of a theory is that it has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie
If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --Percy
The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq

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Message 51 of 378 (913202)
10-16-2023 10:50 PM
Reply to: Message 50 by AZPaul3
10-16-2023 10:23 PM


Re: War Update from BBC
We're going to get sucked into another wasp nest, aren't we?
Probably, and I'm going to totally blame Phat!

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What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python
One important characteristic of a theory is that it has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie
If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --Percy
The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq

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Message 53 of 378 (913211)
10-17-2023 9:03 PM
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10-17-2023 8:39 PM


Re: War Update from BBC
Blame me, eh? Does that mean blame conservatives or does that mean blame religion?
Nope, just you.
I hope that the Palestinian people choose to run rather than stick with their terrorist government!
Government? Do you even know what the function of a government is??? Governments keep civilization functioning. Hamas is trying to destroy civilization. They have never performed even a single aspect of a functional government, let alone the most important, protecting their people.
One more question. If the Gaza strip is nothing more than a large open air prison, why wont any other country nearby, non Jewish, give the Palestinians a more humane place to live? After all, Israel and Palestine will never coexist.
Yeah, this has been reported for decades, no other Arab country wants them, period. Egypt doesn't seem to want to let them in, even in the most dire circumstances. They can all stand back and let Israel get blamed for everything that happens to the Palestinians and Israel is perfectly willing to play into the part once again, kicking the possibility of peace so far down the road that it's out of sight.

Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!
What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python
One important characteristic of a theory is that it has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie
If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --Percy
The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq

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Message 73 of 378 (913238)
10-18-2023 6:20 PM
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10-18-2023 5:13 PM


Re: War Update from BBC
I just watched reports on MSNBC that showed multiple aerial or satellite images of the blast area at the hospital. There is no identifiable crater and minimal damage to the hospital and other surrounding buildings. All the people reported killed by the blast were outside in the parking lot. Israeli explosives would have left a crater and done much more damage to surrounding buildings.
All the evidence is pointing at a Hamas rocket that went off course.

Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!
What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python
One important characteristic of a theory is that it has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie
If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --Percy
The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq

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Message 75 of 378 (913240)
10-18-2023 7:56 PM
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10-18-2023 7:39 PM


Re: War Update from BBC
This war will have more of an impact globally than Ukraine. To emphasize my point, ask yourself what would have likely already occurred had Ukraine possessed 100+Nukes.
Well, I have no idea how you are tracking "more impact globally." Is that more news, more deaths, more damage, more risk of expanding to global conflict, what? Russia in less than 1.5 years has lost 4 or 5 times more soldiers than the U.S. lost in the whole Vietnam War, so that may have an impact on their global plans for the future.
Sorry, you will have to "emphasize your point" with your own actual words rather than trying to communicate via telepathy. As always, I question your grasp of reality.

Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!
What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python
One important characteristic of a theory is that it has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie
If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --Percy
The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq

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Message 77 of 378 (913244)
10-19-2023 12:36 AM
Reply to: Message 76 by Phat
10-19-2023 12:23 AM


Re: War Update from BBC
One thing is certain. Unlike Ukraine, Israel has nukes and in the event they start losing badly, they will not hesitate to use them.
Really? They're going to nuke Gaza?

Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!
What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python
One important characteristic of a theory is that it has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie
If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --Percy
The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq

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Message 79 of 378 (913253)
10-19-2023 10:59 AM
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10-19-2023 5:11 AM


Re: War Update from BBC
In my opinion, they have every right to eliminate Hamas, but how does one go about seperating Hamas terrorist members from ordinary Palestinians?
Yep, terrorists are cowards and every single time they use innocent populations as shields. The decades that the Palestinians have not had any control of of the supply of food, water, electricity and medicine and where they have no citizenship rights, no vote...will make it exceedingly difficult to resolve. What can resolve 3 generations of oppression?

Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!
What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python
One important characteristic of a theory is that it has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie
If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --Percy
The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq

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Message 80 of 378 (913255)
10-19-2023 3:35 PM
Reply to: Message 79 by Tanypteryx
10-19-2023 10:59 AM


Re: War Update from BBC
I just saw a comment on a news channel sum things up..."It's going to get worse before it gets really worse!"

Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!
What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python
One important characteristic of a theory is that it has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie
If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --Percy
The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq

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Message 140 of 378 (913401)
10-27-2023 2:37 PM
Reply to: Message 137 by Phat
10-27-2023 10:36 AM


Re: BBC Update 10 27 23
I will look into all of those books on your list. I love to read--even more than listening to audio. It's just that for me, in this day and age, audio is easier. One cannot read while one is driving, for example.
I can recommend a book you might find interesting, The Unusual Second Life of Thomas Weaver by Shawn Inman. It is free on Audible.

Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!
What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python
One important characteristic of a theory is that it has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie
If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --Percy
The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq

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Message 143 of 378 (913424)
10-29-2023 12:06 PM
Reply to: Message 142 by Percy
10-29-2023 9:03 AM


Re: BBC Update 10 27 23
Do you borrow or buy? If borrow, how much and how long is the borrow period? If buy, how much?
You buy each title and you own it. A monthly $15 gets you one credit for one title. I think the 1st two are free.
And is TUSLOTW free for all Audible users, or just as part of the sign-up deal?
It is free for everyone. You have to search through their options for the best deal (this isn't necessarily the case for every author) from this author, Shawn Inman. In this case the 1st twelve books in his Middle Falls Time Travel series are free (so far, there are 18 titles in the series), but they also have bundles of three titles that cost one credit. The first twelve books is over 100 hours of listening! And these are not time machine kind of time travel at all.
Even if you quit Audible their player still works and you can listen to your books any time. Credits can build up monthly for a year before you start losing any. My wife and I have a shared Audible account so we can use each other's credits...I listen a lot more than she does.
The last few years I find that I prefer listening to audiobooks more than music while I retouch images on my computer and while I am driving and really doing anything that doesn't require me to visually read text (I can't listen to text and visually read text at the same time).
Shawn Inman's books average 10-12 hours each, but I usually like to find new reads that are longer than that. I love 30 hour+ books. Since I am hearing impaired I can't enjoy the "sounds of nature" when I'm out wading in my favorite stream shooting dragonflies, so I usually have my earbuds in listening to a story. I really miss bird songs!

Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!
What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python
One important characteristic of a theory is that it has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie
If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --Percy
The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq

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Message 164 of 378 (913513)
11-08-2023 12:07 PM


I was watching the news this morning and they were showing Netanyahu talking to some Israeli soldiers and I noticed that all the soldiers had on fabric head covering that also had a face mask across the bottoms of their faces so only the eye region was exposed. Any ideas what the purpose of this part of their uniform is? What is it even called? Do the masks work to filter out the dust from concrete pulverized by bombs? That gray dust seems to coat everything in Gaza.

Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!
What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python
One important characteristic of a theory is that it has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie
If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --Percy
The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq

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Message 165 of 378 (913514)
11-08-2023 12:08 PM


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Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!
What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python
One important characteristic of a theory is that it has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie
If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --Percy
The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq

  
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Message 167 of 378 (913519)
11-08-2023 7:39 PM
Reply to: Message 166 by Phat
11-08-2023 5:46 PM


Re: Tunnel Rats
I'm just speculating, but I think the masks are standard gear for intense urban warfare.
Yeah, I know. It seems to be a pretty common part of modern foot soldier's kit. I can think of several functions, i.e. camouflage, dust masks, but I think a lot of times it's purely a tactic to intimidate your foes and impress the public. The costumes you see militarized police SWAT teams wearing seem to be pure intimidation and posturing for themselves. Their costumes look really uncomfortable in hot weather and also looks like it would impede breathing, hearing and peripheral vision. Helmets, body armor, gas masks, etc. Hell yeah, but this excessive head gear seems risky to me, and I don't remember seeing it in Nam.

Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!
What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python
One important characteristic of a theory is that it has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie
If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --Percy
The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq

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Message 170 of 378 (913530)
11-10-2023 12:45 PM
Reply to: Message 169 by Phat
11-10-2023 3:57 AM


Re: Tunnel Rats
When you (or the US Army in general) were fighting in Viet Nam, , how could one tell the difference between civilian population and fighters?
If they had a rifle or grenade, you knew. That's the thing with insurgents, they don't wear uniforms. The thing about insurgents is they care more about their cause more than their people. Even if their cause is just, its operation is without honor.

Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!
What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python
One important characteristic of a theory is that it has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie
If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --Percy
The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq

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