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Zucadragon
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Message 1457 of 1516 (920088)
08-30-2024 11:26 PM


Watching his speech in Pennsylvania and the unhinged things he's saying are just amazing. Like holy hell, let me just share a direct quote.
"You know I do the weave, you know what the weave is? I talk about 9 different things and they all come back brilliantly together"
"And like friends of mine, they are like English professors, they say, it's the most brilliant thing I've ever seen"
"But the fake news, you know what they say, he rambled. that's not rambling. What you have, what you do is you get off a subject, you mention another little tidbit, then you get back onto the subject, and you go through this and you do it for 2 hours, and you don't even mispronounce one word"
He's falling apart, right after saying he gets back onto topic, he doesn't, he just keeps on rambling, later on he talks about crowd sizes again. A speech that should have been about the economy and his plans, turns into a huge rant about how he's not treated well, the fake news, how he is the greatest.
Like, I do not understand how someone can listen to this and think... That's our future president.
It's just pure narcissism every single time he talks.

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Message 1458 of 1516 (920089)
08-31-2024 12:22 AM
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08-30-2024 11:26 PM


Zucadragon writes in Message 1457:
He's falling apart, right after saying he gets back onto topic, he doesn't, he just keeps on rambling, later on he talks about crowd sizes again.
Check out the latest from the Lincoln Project:

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Message 1459 of 1516 (920090)
08-31-2024 8:20 AM
Reply to: Message 1458 by nwr
08-31-2024 12:22 AM


I'd Walk A Mile For A Kamala
He may be an old crook, but she is hardly the defender of Democracy that her political machine tries to portray her as. If she loses, it will be because a majority of voters don't feel she is fully qualified. If she wins, we best pray for her to grow a pair. We all will need a strong leader and her and that beta male from Minnesota will have their hands full.

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Theodoric
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Message 1460 of 1516 (920091)
08-31-2024 9:11 AM
Reply to: Message 1459 by Phat
08-31-2024 8:20 AM


Re: I'd Walk A Mile For A Kamala
Nothing to back up claims. A personal attack on Governor Walz. Yet you wonder why I criticize you, So why is Governor Walz a "beta male? What is a "beta male"? Are you Implying that the convicted felon Is an "alpha male"? What is an "alpha male? Why would that be worthy of praise?

What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up, why would you have to lie?


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Tangle
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Message 1461 of 1516 (920092)
08-31-2024 9:50 AM
Reply to: Message 1459 by Phat
08-31-2024 8:20 AM


Re: I'd Walk A Mile For A Kamala
Phat writes:
He may be an old crook,
"Old crook?" You make him out to be bit of a rascal, a naughty but loveable boy. He's a convicted rapist, a fraud and liar and self confessed molester - and the rest.
How can you downplay all that? More importantly how can you even think of voting for him? I just don't get it.

Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London. Olen Suomi Soy Barcelona. I am Ukraine.

"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.


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Message 1462 of 1516 (920093)
08-31-2024 10:53 AM
Reply to: Message 1459 by Phat
08-31-2024 8:20 AM


Re: I'd Walk A Mile For A Kamala
Phat writes in Message 1459:
He may be an old crook, but she is hardly the defender of Democracy that her political machine tries to portray her as.
Hope you find this helpful:
--Percy

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Theodoric
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Message 1463 of 1516 (920094)
08-31-2024 12:18 PM
Reply to: Message 1461 by Tangle
08-31-2024 9:50 AM


Re: I'd Walk A Mile For A Kamala
How can anyone claim to stand for so called 'Christian" values and support the convicted felon over, Biden, Harris or Walz?
As I have stated before, I will put my moral values up against Phats at any time.

What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up, why would you have to lie?


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Phat
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Message 1464 of 1516 (920095)
08-31-2024 4:00 PM
Reply to: Message 1461 by Tangle
08-31-2024 9:50 AM


Re: I'd Walk A Mile For A Kamala
Tangle writes:
You make him out to be a bit of a rascal, a naughty but loveable boy. He's a convicted rapist, a fraud and liar, and self-confessed molester - and the rest.
​
How can you downplay all that?
Its not seemingly a problem for the people who support him. You cant simply handwave them away as a giant personality cult.
Could it be that they did not appreciate the Democrats weaponizing the justice system to target him after the insurrection? Could it be that many people saw him being framed and the thinly veiled attempts at silencing him for good?
Or maybe a lot of people wanted the good economic times back that they had before Biden? People see through disinformation. They know that economic figures are often not what they appear.
I'm not particularly fond of the guy but I definitely don't label him the way many of you do.
As always, you go with data and statistics every single time, even though it was the justice system that compiled the data and "facts" against him. I just don't see him as that bad. At least he has experience. Finally, in addition to all that, the very fact that you despise him so much gives me reason not to.
The failed assassination attempt also seemed suspicious.

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Message 1465 of 1516 (920096)
08-31-2024 4:06 PM
Reply to: Message 1464 by Phat
08-31-2024 4:00 PM


Re: I'd Walk A Mile For A Kamala
Please, please, stop.
--Percy

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Theodoric
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Message 1466 of 1516 (920097)
08-31-2024 4:25 PM
Reply to: Message 1464 by Phat
08-31-2024 4:00 PM


Re: I'd Walk A Mile For A Kamala
Nothing you said is true or even anywhere near the realm of reality. As Percy says. Please stop.

What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up, why would you have to lie?


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Tangle
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Message 1467 of 1516 (920098)
08-31-2024 5:34 PM
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08-31-2024 4:00 PM


Re: I'd Walk A Mile For A Kamala
I suppose I have to accept that you - and half the US voting public - actually believe that. It's incomprehensible.
I want to say that if that twat wins you'll be the laughing stock of the Western world, but I can't, we're too frightened.
Yeh, go buy gold and dig a big hole to put it in.

Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London. Olen Suomi Soy Barcelona. I am Ukraine.

"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.


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Message 1468 of 1516 (920099)
08-31-2024 5:41 PM
Reply to: Message 1464 by Phat
08-31-2024 4:00 PM


No, Phat, you are mistaken
Phat writes in Message 1464:
Could it be that they did not appreciate the Democrats weaponizing the justice system to target him after the insurrection?
That never happened.
Could it be that many people saw him being framed and the thinly veiled attempts at silencing him for good?
That never happened, either.
Or maybe a lot of people wanted the good economic times back that they had before Biden?
That's possible -- except that should be "before Trump". Biden has been working to improve the economy.
At least he has experience.
Yes, he has experience at bankrupting businesses. To me, that seems like a negative.
The failed assassination attempt also seemed suspicious.
The assassination attempt is not fully explained. However, it is looking as if Thomas Crooks investigated both Biden and Trump, and presumably could have shot at either. But Trump was the target of opportunity because his rally was nearby.

Fundamentalism - the anti-American, anti-Christian branch of American Christianity

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Message 1469 of 1516 (920103)
09-01-2024 12:41 AM
Reply to: Message 1464 by Phat
08-31-2024 4:00 PM


Re: I'd Walk A Mile For A Kamala
Could it be that many people saw him being framed and the thinly veiled attempts at silencing him for good?
right cause they don't have him on tape trying to get the Georgia secretary of state to mess with the vote count. And the FBI didn't recover boxes of classified material from his bathroom. And his lawyer didn't testify as to trumps attempts to obstruct the investigation.
Seriously Phat do you know how fucked you are if a prosecutor can convince a judge that they have enough evidence to justify a breach of attorney-client privilege?

It's not enough to bash in heads, you've got to bash in minds
soon I discovered that this rock thing was true
Jerry Lee Lewis was the devil
Jesus was an architect previous to his career as a prophet
All of a sudden i found myself in love with the world
And so there was only one thing I could do
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Message 1470 of 1516 (920107)
09-01-2024 11:50 AM
Reply to: Message 1465 by Percy
08-31-2024 4:06 PM


Re: I'd Walk A Mile For A Kamala
Stop what? Free speech? Im just voicing my opinion in my own words. You did not like YouTube videos, even though I would argue that they are not all a bunch of salesmen or shysters. What I DO share with them is an opportunity to voice my free speech. If you have forum restrictions on it, please elaborate.
I limited my discussion to my current political views. What do you want now? A bunch of data and support for my perspectives? Because I will tell you one thing. I do not fully trust the information out there. And that goes for both sides in this election.

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Message 1471 of 1516 (920108)
09-01-2024 11:53 AM
Reply to: Message 1466 by Theodoric
08-31-2024 4:25 PM


Re: I'd Walk A Mile For A Kamala
How do you know the truth? I just listened to CNN headlines on Alexa. Unlike the days of Walter Cronkite, I always question what is being broadcast in the media. Why don't you want to hear views that disagree with yours? It would be a very scary country if we all agreed on everything.

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