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LamarkNewAge
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Message 962 of 1056 (918863)
06-05-2024 11:41 AM
Reply to: Message 961 by Tanypteryx
06-05-2024 11:37 AM


Re: China sells FULL SIZE Electric car for $9,700! We need technocrats in government.
Be honest.
You think Americans just love the choices in this election, right?
Be honest.

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Tanypteryx
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Message 963 of 1056 (918864)
06-05-2024 12:03 PM
Reply to: Message 962 by LamarkNewAge
06-05-2024 11:41 AM


Re: China sells FULL SIZE Electric car for $9,700! We need technocrats in government.
I can honestly say, I have never thought about "Americans loving the choices in this election." A huge percentage of Americans clearly don't give a shit, because they don't even vote.
Be honest.
Do you think anyone is going to bother trying to decipher the gibberish you write here, let alone agree you have a valid analysis of anything?
Be honest.

Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!
What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python
One important characteristic of a theory is that it has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie
If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --Percy
The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq
Why should anyone debate someone who doesn't know the subject? -- AZPaul3
If you are going to argue that evolution is false because it resembles your own beliefs then perhaps you should rethink your argument. - - Taq

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LamarkNewAge
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Message 964 of 1056 (918865)
06-05-2024 12:16 PM
Reply to: Message 963 by Tanypteryx
06-05-2024 12:03 PM


Re: China sells FULL SIZE Electric car for $9,700! We need technocrats in government.
Trump voters are far from "MAGA" CNN propaganda, which partisan Democrats love to repeat.
Trump voters hold their nose at Trump, first of all.
Secondly, I doubt half, of Trump supporters, feel America was ever anything but a shit hole, waiting for a fixer upper.
I never supported him, much, so I can't speak on much.
Among, under 40 voters, it looks like most Trump supporters might not even be white.
Democrats (Biden!) are running about even with Trump among blacks/Hispanics under 40.
CNN and MSNBC are liars. "MAGA" is a myth.
Biden sucks.
MAGA is a myth.
Get over Trump Derangement Syndrome.
Get over the fact that Americans can't stand your ignorant broad brush.
This is not the 1988 Bush/Dukakis race where everyone loved the two political parties.

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Tanypteryx
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Message 965 of 1056 (918866)
06-05-2024 12:25 PM
Reply to: Message 964 by LamarkNewAge
06-05-2024 12:16 PM


Did you ever think, hey I'm going to write in complete sentences and paragraphs and explain my thoughts and focus on a single thought at a time?

Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!
What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python
One important characteristic of a theory is that it has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie
If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --Percy
The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq
Why should anyone debate someone who doesn't know the subject? -- AZPaul3
If you are going to argue that evolution is false because it resembles your own beliefs then perhaps you should rethink your argument. - - Taq

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Taq
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Message 966 of 1056 (918867)
06-05-2024 4:04 PM
Reply to: Message 964 by LamarkNewAge
06-05-2024 12:16 PM


Re: China sells FULL SIZE Electric car for $9,700! We need technocrats in government.
LNA writes:
Trump voters are far from "MAGA" CNN propaganda, which partisan Democrats love to repeat.

Trump voters hold their nose at Trump, first of all.
The primaries disprove this fact. Republicans had the opportunity to nominate someone else, and there were plenty of decent candidates to choose from. They didn't. They are nominating the Dear Leader again.
Secondly, I doubt half, of Trump supporters, feel America was ever anything but a shit hole, waiting for a fixer upper.
The MAGA cultists only think the country is a shithole when a Democrat is in office for very obvious political reasons.
MAGA is a myth.
If you told me the sky was blue I would have to look up to check. Sometimes you say something that demonstrates just how out of touch you really are. Do you live in the US? Have you seen interviews of people at MAGA rallies?

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nwr
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Message 967 of 1056 (918868)
06-05-2024 6:33 PM
Reply to: Message 964 by LamarkNewAge
06-05-2024 12:16 PM


Re: China sells FULL SIZE Electric car for $9,700! We need technocrats in government.
LamarkNewAge writes in Message 964:
CNN and MSNBC are liars. "MAGA" is a myth.

Biden sucks.

MAGA is a myth.
LamarkNewAge is a Russian troll bot.

Fundamentalism - the anti-American, anti-Christian branch of American Christianity

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Tanypteryx
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Message 968 of 1056 (918869)
06-05-2024 6:54 PM
Reply to: Message 967 by nwr
06-05-2024 6:33 PM


Re: China sells FULL SIZE Electric car for $9,700! We need technocrats in government.
LamarkNewAge is a Russian troll bot.
I'm pretty sure I said something very similar to this a long time ago. If it's not a bot, it's still a Putin worshiping troll.

Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!
What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python
One important characteristic of a theory is that it has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie
If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --Percy
The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq
Why should anyone debate someone who doesn't know the subject? -- AZPaul3
If you are going to argue that evolution is false because it resembles your own beliefs then perhaps you should rethink your argument. - - Taq

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nwr
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Message 969 of 1056 (918870)
06-05-2024 8:03 PM
Reply to: Message 968 by Tanypteryx
06-05-2024 6:54 PM


Re: China sells FULL SIZE Electric car for $9,700! We need technocrats in government.
In context, I was responding to a post that made bare assertions with no supporting evidence or argument.
I responded in kind. But it is really a foolish way to "debate", and my intention was to illustrate that foolishness.

Fundamentalism - the anti-American, anti-Christian branch of American Christianity

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Tanypteryx
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Message 970 of 1056 (918871)
06-05-2024 8:22 PM
Reply to: Message 969 by nwr
06-05-2024 8:03 PM


Re: China sells FULL SIZE Electric car for $9,700! We need technocrats in government.
Yep, you say something and he says 10 completely unrelated phrases and then you say something and he says 10 more unrelated phrases and it either stops or goes downhill from there. It's like his view of the world is the reflections in a shattered mirror (I think Percy said something like this earlier). Frustrating and unsatisfying.

Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!
What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python
One important characteristic of a theory is that it has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie
If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --Percy
The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq
Why should anyone debate someone who doesn't know the subject? -- AZPaul3
If you are going to argue that evolution is false because it resembles your own beliefs then perhaps you should rethink your argument. - - Taq

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AZPaul3
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Message 971 of 1056 (918872)
06-05-2024 9:39 PM
Reply to: Message 970 by Tanypteryx
06-05-2024 8:22 PM


Trump Thumping
I love the analogy of LNA's world as reflections in a shattered mirror. It matches his posts quite well. Another unique intellect.
What is disturbing is the mythical MAGA with Trump as just a much maligned good guy who will make a useful and necessary not-dictator. The level of batshit crazy necessary to write it out there for public consumption is fierce enough. To actually believe this subterfuge fantasy, in this world of instant counterfactual information, takes intellectual levels near brain dead. He is an injured intellect.
Of course we will see more of this MAGA/Trump thumping here and everywhere as the election nears. The thing to note is the level of intellect displayed (or not) by the poster. I will bet you $5 they will be from broken injured intellects all.
I know this is so because we have seen it on display on a national news level. Whenever you hear MAGA rhetoric and look up it's always one of the known stupids talking. And Republicans have so many of them.

“There’s simply no polite way to tell people they’ve dedicated their lives to an illusion,”
-Daniel Dennett
Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!

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Tanypteryx
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Message 972 of 1056 (918873)
06-05-2024 9:50 PM
Reply to: Message 971 by AZPaul3
06-05-2024 9:39 PM


Re: Trump Thumping
Yeah, a damaged personality, but also potentially very dangerous.
I love watching Jordan Klepper (on the Daily Show) interviewing the regulars at MAGA rallies. Crazy, but armed!

Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!
What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python
One important characteristic of a theory is that it has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie
If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --Percy
The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq
Why should anyone debate someone who doesn't know the subject? -- AZPaul3
If you are going to argue that evolution is false because it resembles your own beliefs then perhaps you should rethink your argument. - - Taq

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LamarkNewAge
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Message 973 of 1056 (918874)
06-06-2024 3:26 AM


Is Mark Geragos "MAGA"? Is the senior CNN legal analyst MAGA?
Is the President of El Salvador MAGA?
Piers Morgan recently suffered Elon Musk canceling an interview with him, because Morgan attacked his reinstating of Alex Jone's Twitter account. Musk cancelled Morgan. And Morgan is a supplier of a total Gun ban.
Piers Morgan constantly refers to the New York Court as a Banana Republic trial.
Alan Dershowitz is as much of an expert as one can find, and he is very liberal.
(Nevermind the fact that MAGA used to be described as a white supremacy movement, by the same partisan Democrats who chant it constantly - ignoring the fact that Trump, at times, leads Biden, in polls, with Hispanics)
MAGA is a partisan Democratic chant. It is an etiology to justify a total complete ignorance, on the part of partisan Democrats, of just about every relevant issue of our political debate.
MAGA is an etiological story, with no real existence.

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Percy
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Message 974 of 1056 (918875)
06-06-2024 7:04 AM
Reply to: Message 973 by LamarkNewAge
06-06-2024 3:26 AM


Re: Is Mark Geragos "MAGA"? Is the senior CNN legal analyst MAGA?
LamarkNewAge writes in Message 973:
MAGA is an etiological story, with no real existence.
It's like you're living in an alternate reality. This is from the front page of the Trump Campaign Website:
quote:
The MAGA Movement
The American Way of Life is under attack while career politicians destroy our economy and sabotage our nation’s incredible potential. We will take our country back from the corrupt Washington establishment and return power to the American people, where it belongs. We will achieve a future of prosperity, security, and peace — creating once again the greatest economy in the history of the world, defending our borders, restoring energy independence, and leading with strength and pride on the world stage. It is time to put America First once more and usher in a glorious new era of faith, family, and freedom. Together, we will save lives, save jobs, and save America. Join me in our unstoppable mission to Make America Great Again.
The page includes this llink for purchasing campaign paraphernalia:
When I started reading your first message from yesterday, Message 958, I thought it was worth replying to. It was a little nutty but not too nutty. But then about 20% of the way through it descended straight into crazy town.
--Percy

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Percy
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Message 975 of 1056 (918876)
06-06-2024 7:24 AM
Reply to: Message 958 by LamarkNewAge
06-05-2024 7:33 AM


Re: China sells FULL SIZE Electric car for $9,700! We need technocrats in government.
I'll reply to the little bit of your Message 958 that's not crazy or divorced from reality:
LamarkNewAge writes in Message 958:
The party that has - in recent decades - claimed to champion causes such as "inclusion" and "welcoming migrants" just witnessed its President declare a policy push to allow no more than 900,000 migrants a year to seek asylum in the United States.
I have said before in this thread that I am deeply disappointed in Biden's immigration policies, and that disappointment has only deepened.
--Percy

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Percy
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Message 976 of 1056 (918877)
06-06-2024 7:51 AM


The Hunter Biden Trial
Because of efforts to tie Hunter Biden's legal problems to the president, the Hunter Biden trial is a campaign issue, so it's worth discussing a little.
I don't understand why he's being prosecuted. Addicts will do or say anything if they think it will help them get a fix, and Hunter Biden was obviously an addict when he filled out the federal firearms form. The form asks if you're currently an addict, and of course all addicts will answer "no". The form is just entrapment for addicts.
Obviously Hunter Biden wasn't thinking clearly. He could have gone to a gun show and purchased a firearm privately with no forms.
He's forced to mount a crazy contradictory defense because he had the brilliance to publish a memoir that seems to indicate he was an addict when he filled out that form, and others in his life will testify that he was still an addict at the time. He's guilty as all get out for lying on that form, but why it's a federal priority to prosecute an addict for lying when all addicts lie (it's a symptom of the disease) is beyond me.
--Percy

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