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AZPaul3
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Message 16 of 43 (911752)
07-25-2023 8:40 PM
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07-25-2023 7:07 PM


WTF????
Makes your little catholic "Proper Pecker" meter just go nuts, doesn’t it? And you thought reality couldn’t disturb your fantasies. Surprise!

Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!

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Message 17 of 43 (911753)
07-25-2023 9:44 PM
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07-25-2023 8:40 PM


I usually find manifestations of mental illness/demonic possession somewhat disturbing.

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Message 18 of 43 (911754)
07-25-2023 9:51 PM
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04-27-2023 2:35 AM


Dr. InAdequate writes:
Yay, good for you!
You celebrate manifestations of mental illness/demonic possession in others? Wow, that's disturbing.
Perhaps you're suffering from mental illness/demonic possession yourself.
Try this test: Go to a Catholic priest and get him to sprinkle some holy water on you. If you react violently, you are probably demonically possessed.

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Message 19 of 43 (911756)
07-25-2023 10:21 PM
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07-25-2023 9:44 PM


No one but you see any of that. But what should one expect from a religious bigot.

What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?


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Message 20 of 43 (911774)
07-26-2023 2:30 AM
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07-25-2023 8:40 PM


APauling666 writes:
And you thought reality couldn’t disturb your fantasies.
On the contrary, since man is a fallen creature, I expect our present condition to produce its fair share of disturbing realities ... you, for example.

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Message 21 of 43 (911775)
07-26-2023 2:34 AM
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07-25-2023 10:21 PM


Theodorkic writes:
No one but you see any of that.
Not so. Millions of Christians, Jews and Muslims share my opinion.
But what should one expect from a religious bigot.
Exactly. Well said.

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Message 22 of 43 (911778)
07-26-2023 2:42 AM
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07-25-2023 7:51 PM


Re: Eulogies For The Missing
Theodorkic writes:
Take your hate and disrespect elsewhere.
That's a hateful and disrespectful thing to say.
Take your hate and disrespect elsewhere.
You say you believe in freedom of speech, but evidently you don't
... but don't let it get you down, I've yet to come across anyone who truly believes in freedom of speech. I certainly don't.

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Message 23 of 43 (911787)
07-26-2023 7:27 AM
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07-26-2023 2:42 AM


Re: Eulogies For The Missing
Freedom of speech is not unlimited and does not absolve one from criticism and public humiliation. Freedom of speech means the government cannot keep people from speaking stupidity and hate. It does not mean I can not point out your hate and stupidity. Keep spouting, people need to know how stupid and hateful you are.

What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?


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Theodoric
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Message 24 of 43 (911788)
07-26-2023 7:28 AM
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07-26-2023 2:34 AM


Evidence please.

What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?


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Message 25 of 43 (911811)
07-26-2023 11:37 AM
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07-26-2023 2:42 AM


Re: Eulogies For The Missing
Hi Dredge,
You've wandered into a few threads now that were respectful conversations and introduced insult and mockery (Hi. Yes. How's it going?, Tribute Thread for the Recently Passed Greats and Humour VIII). If this doesn't stop then I will impose a post-limit on you, starting at 1/day.

--Percy
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Message 26 of 43 (911814)
07-26-2023 5:58 PM
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07-26-2023 7:27 AM


Re: Eulogies For The Missing
Theodorkic writes:
Freedom of speech is not unlimited
Thanks for this excellent example of a contradiction-in-terms.
The Left's idea of "freedom of speech" = You are free to say anything as long as we agree with it.

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Message 27 of 43 (911819)
07-26-2023 6:40 PM
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07-26-2023 5:58 PM


Re: Eulogies For The Missing
You can say anything you want. Freedom of speech means the government cannot restrict what you say. It does not mean we can not criticize, or a website cannot restrict your privileges. Damn you are stupid.

What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?


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Dredge
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Message 28 of 43 (911879)
07-30-2023 1:20 AM
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07-26-2023 6:40 PM


Re: Eulogies For The Missing
Theodorkic writes:
Freedom of speech means the government cannot restrict what you say.
In that case, no government on earth practises freedom of speech.

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AZPaul3
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Message 29 of 43 (911881)
07-30-2023 2:06 AM
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07-30-2023 1:20 AM


Re: Eulogies For The Missing
As with most things you don't understand the freedom of speech is a guiding principle not an absolute. Humans are much too stupid and evil to be allowed to flap-off at the mouth without some restrictions.

Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!

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Message 30 of 43 (911882)
07-30-2023 9:13 AM
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07-30-2023 1:20 AM


Re: Eulogies For The Missing
Dredge writes:
Theodorkic writes:
Freedom of speech means the government cannot restrict what you say.
In that case, no government on earth practises freedom of speech.
Freedom of speech has reasonable limits. For instance, in the U.S. defamation, libel, criminal threatening and dangerous speech such as yelling "fire" in a crowded theatre (a form of incitement) are all illegal. False testimony while under oath is illegal and you can be charged with perjury, and false allegations or lying to legal and/or enforcement authorities can be illegal, too.
Pretty much everyone feels these are reasonable and necessary restrictions on free speech. Do you have a problem with them? For you, if libel and the rest are all illegal does it mean that we don't really have Freedom of Speech?
Some Republicans do seem to have a problem with Freedom of Speech. Teachers and librarians are getting hit with a raft of very vaguely drafted laws Republican-led states restricting what they can say or provide to children. Some of the laws permit a teacher or librarian to be charged upon the complaint of a single parent. A parent could complain about Are You There God? It's Me, Margaret in a middle school library and put a librarian in legal jeopardy in some states now. See School librarians face a new penalty in the banned-book wars: Prison, for example.
--Percy

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