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Taq
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Message 226 of 283 (908829)
03-21-2023 6:22 PM
Reply to: Message 214 by Phat
03-20-2023 1:05 PM


Re: Grinding America Down
Phat writes:
You bring up a good point. Global debt is over 100 trillion dollars. Modeern Monetary Theory seems to think that it is no big deal. It takes no Rocket Scientist to question their conclusions!
So I take it that you can't name a single economy in any country that is on the rails?
If so, then the US is probably sitting pretty since we are one of the strongest off the rails economies right now.

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Message 227 of 283 (908830)
03-21-2023 6:28 PM
Reply to: Message 222 by Phat
03-21-2023 3:48 PM


Re: Grinding America Down
Phat writes:
Meanwhile, the BRICS nations plan on forming a new Global Reserve Currency backed by Gold, which China has been accumulating at an accelerating pace.
There's not enough gold in the world to do that. There's already a massive problem with paper gold where it is estimated that there is 50x to 200x paper gold (i.e. traded gold reserve certificates) than there is actual gold.
More to the point, the US's gold reserve is currently 4x that of China's and more than 2x of the next closest country, which is Germany.

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Tanypteryx
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Message 228 of 283 (909190)
03-29-2023 11:37 AM
Reply to: Message 200 by Phat
03-19-2023 3:58 PM


Re: Grinding America Down
Message 180
Phat writes:
No. I stand by this one. China has been playing the long game with America for 50 years. Our esteemed financial geniuses have been duped.
Just what exactly is this duping that you have brilliantly uncovered?
Message 202
Phat writes:
I realize that you all are "impressed" and/or persuaded by "experts in their field". But just wait until you find out the truth about Jerome Powell and Janet Yellin!
Message 200
Phat writes:
I will finish later, as I have to (am blessed to be able to) go to work right now. I will attempt to explain how the US Economy came off of the rails starting in the early seventies and worsening every year since then.
Tanypteryx writes:
Just what exactly is this duping that you have brilliantly uncovered?
Have a seat, Damselfly. I must go earn money to feed the larvae, but shall return later.
Is the answer coming anytime soon? I'm beginning to think that you are bullshitting us.
Just what exactly is this duping that you have brilliantly uncovered?

Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python

One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie

If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq


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Theodoric
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Message 229 of 283 (909199)
03-29-2023 1:01 PM
Reply to: Message 228 by Tanypteryx
03-29-2023 11:37 AM


Patience
He's busy looking for a youtube video that he doesn't understand.

What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?


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Tanypteryx
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Message 230 of 283 (909332)
03-31-2023 6:41 PM
Reply to: Message 200 by Phat
03-19-2023 3:58 PM


Re: Grinding America Down
Message 180
Phat writes:
No. I stand by this one. China has been playing the long game with America for 50 years. Our esteemed financial geniuses have been duped.
Just what exactly is this duping that you have brilliantly uncovered?
Message 202
Phat writes:
I realize that you all are "impressed" and/or persuaded by "experts in their field". But just wait until you find out the truth about Jerome Powell and Janet Yellin!
Message 200
Phat writes:
I will finish later, as I have to (am blessed to be able to) go to work right now. I will attempt to explain how the US Economy came off of the rails starting in the early seventies and worsening every year since then.
Tanypteryx writes:
Just what exactly is this duping that you have brilliantly uncovered?
Have a seat, Damselfly. I must go earn money to feed the larvae, but shall return later.
Is the answer coming anytime soon? I'm beginning to think that you are bullshitting us.
Just what exactly is this duping that you have brilliantly uncovered?

Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python

One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie

If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq


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Phat
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Message 231 of 283 (909337)
03-31-2023 8:38 PM
Reply to: Message 230 by Tanypteryx
03-31-2023 6:41 PM


Re: Grinding America Down
For starters, read what Biden himself says.
Bidens remarks

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Tanypteryx
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Message 232 of 283 (909338)
03-31-2023 8:46 PM
Reply to: Message 231 by Phat
03-31-2023 8:38 PM


Re: Grinding America Down
Oh bullshit! you made statements and now you are too cowardly to admit that it was all bullshit and empty crap and that you have no clue what you are talking about!
Message 180
Phat writes:
No. I stand by this one. China has been playing the long game with America for 50 years. Our esteemed financial geniuses have been duped.
Just what exactly is this duping that you have brilliantly uncovered?
Message 202
Phat writes:
I realize that you all are "impressed" and/or persuaded by "experts in their field". But just wait until you find out the truth about Jerome Powell and Janet Yellin!
Message 200
Phat writes:
I will finish later, as I have to (am blessed to be able to) go to work right now. I will attempt to explain how the US Economy came off of the rails starting in the early seventies and worsening every year since then.
Tanypteryx writes:
Just what exactly is this duping that you have brilliantly uncovered?
Have a seat, Damselfly. I must go earn money to feed the larvae, but shall return later.
Is the answer coming anytime soon? I'm beginning to think that you are bullshitting us.
Just what exactly is this duping that you have brilliantly uncovered?

Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python

One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie

If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq


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AZPaul3
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Message 233 of 283 (909339)
03-31-2023 8:50 PM
Reply to: Message 231 by Phat
03-31-2023 8:38 PM


Re: Grinding America Down
Other than the chinese practicing good capitalism (crush your opponent in the marketplace) Biden's message here was patriotic jingoism. Of course it resounds with you. It's aggressive. Violent. Just what sends the heart of american christians into a pitter-patter of patriotic joy.
I don't see any chinese duping of anything.

Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!

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Theodoric
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Message 234 of 283 (909340)
03-31-2023 8:54 PM
Reply to: Message 231 by Phat
03-31-2023 8:38 PM


Re: Grinding America Down
He says that is what he thinks Xi believes. Irrelevant to your wild-ass claims. Is reading comprehension a consistent problem for you?

What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?


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Percy
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Message 235 of 283 (909344)
04-01-2023 7:20 AM
Reply to: Message 231 by Phat
03-31-2023 8:38 PM


Re: Grinding America Down
Phat writes:
For starters, read what Biden himself says.
Bidens remarks
You completely failed to include any content of your own:
  1. Points should be supported with evidence and reasoned argumentation. Address rebuttals through the introduction of additional evidence or by enlarging upon the argument. Do not repeat previous points without further elaboration. Avoid bare assertions.
  2. Bare links with no supporting discussion should be avoided. Make the argument in your own words and use links as supporting references.
Here is my response, edited to be commensurate with the amount of your own content:
...
--Percy

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xongsmith
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Message 236 of 283 (909346)
04-01-2023 7:55 AM
Reply to: Message 235 by Percy
04-01-2023 7:20 AM


Re: Grinding America Down
the date at the top of the linked page...
hmmm....is the Post into hijinks ala' Faux Noise now?

"I'm the Grim Reaper now, Mitch. Step aside."
Death to #TzarVladimirtheCondemned!
Enjoy every sandwich!

- xongsmith, 5.7dawkins scale


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Tanypteryx
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Message 237 of 283 (909414)
04-03-2023 1:19 PM
Reply to: Message 231 by Phat
03-31-2023 8:38 PM


Re: Grinding America Down
I realize you are never going to explain yourself, because you just rave on and on with pure meaningless crap, you just can't help yourself, but I'm going to keep pointing it out.
Message 180
Phat writes:
No. I stand by this one. China has been playing the long game with America for 50 years. Our esteemed financial geniuses have been duped.
Just what exactly is this duping that you have brilliantly uncovered?
Message 202
Phat writes:
I realize that you all are "impressed" and/or persuaded by "experts in their field". But just wait until you find out the truth about Jerome Powell and Janet Yellin!
Message 200
Phat writes:
I will finish later, as I have to (am blessed to be able to) go to work right now. I will attempt to explain how the US Economy came off of the rails starting in the early seventies and worsening every year since then.
Tanypteryx writes:
Just what exactly is this duping that you have brilliantly uncovered?
Have a seat, Damselfly. I must go earn money to feed the larvae, but shall return later.
Message 231
Phat writes:
For starters, read what Biden himself says.
‚Äč
Bidens remarks
Is the answer coming anytime soon? It's obvious that you are bullshitting us.
Just what exactly is this duping that you have brilliantly uncovered?

Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python

One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie

If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq


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Theodoric
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Message 238 of 283 (909438)
04-03-2023 9:11 PM
Reply to: Message 237 by Tanypteryx
04-03-2023 1:19 PM


Re: Grinding America Down
He ran away.

What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?


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Tanypteryx
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From: Oregon, USA
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Message 239 of 283 (909440)
04-03-2023 9:16 PM
Reply to: Message 238 by Theodoric
04-03-2023 9:11 PM


Re: Grinding America Down
Surprising no one.

Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python

One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie

If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq


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Phat
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Message 240 of 283 (909643)
04-07-2023 12:06 PM
Reply to: Message 238 by Theodoric
04-03-2023 9:11 PM


Re: Grinding America Down
Theo writes:
He ran away.
Just like you ran away from the inconvenient truth of faith?
You chose to side with the "rational" atheeists, who have no clue of anything apart from what their models show them.
FYI I never run. I simply regroup. It takes a few days to even want to answer this stuff!
Tanypteryx writes:
Surprising no one.
You might even someday surprise yourself when you stop stonewalling all information which offends your liberal sensitivities and realize that economically, the Empire has no clothes. The crash is months away. Your one advantage is that you have lived through hard times and will know how to survive. I will be in worse shape than you, but I will try and hold on to my faith.
Tanypteryx writes:
Just what exactly is this duping that you have brilliantly uncovered?
I have read several books by people who study this stuff for a living.
Stealth War: How China Took Over While America's Elite Slept
Wiki:
The book outlines, and gives examples of, a number of American grievances with PRC policies such as:
Intellectual property theft
Chinese Communist Party infiltration of domestic society and institutions
The erosion of domestic political and economic institutions
Unfair and unequal trade practices
Chinese espionage in the United States
Foreign investment manipulation
Debt trap diplomacy and the Belt and Road Initiative

I have studied all of these things and perhaps the only major argument that your side can muster is, predictably, the fact that my information is coming from a Conservative perspective which will be countered with your usual bunch of liberal countercrap. (What do I mean by that?) You will argue that China does not have to be an enemy or even an adversary. You will argue that there is nothing wrong with trying to preserve the global fiat money system and that it is the conservatives who are clamoring for a financial collapse.
There is a lot of deception in the world today, and I've got news for you. It is not only coming from conservative sources. And I happen to think that Robert Spalding is a reputable source.

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