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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 7857 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 2.9
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![]() You're not really accepting science. You're just cherry-picking the parts you want to accept. That isn't how science works. But cherry-picking is ok for christianity and the bible, right? It is allowed there, isn't it? Unlike we, with our science (quantum field theory), christians and bible thumpers don't HAVE to accept ALL the head-scratching bullshit, do they? And they're allowed to make up spur-of-the-moment parts when they want, right? We can't do that in science. We have to have evidentiary reason for picking new cherries. That's kinda the way it is with science. If it 'is', then it is and there is no picking around the cherry. You pretty much have to take the science for the reality it reveals or stay stupid. That's pretty much it.Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!
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riVeRraT Member Posts: 5788 From: NY USA Joined: |
Some years ago you had an interaction with a member named rrhain. He suggested an experiment: put an inch or so of water in a bathtub, then put a brick in it (dry land). Then scoop up some of the water and pour it over the brick. That was an analogy of the Flood, illustrating how it is impossible to cover all of the existing land with the existing water. You professed, post after post, to not understand the obvious. You were either a huge idiot or you were lying about how huge an idiot you were Either you have a good memory, or you spent all night looking for an example. I could just say without explanation at all that your example is absolutely not proof of me lying. I have always fully understood the concept of water displacement and the volume of water on earth. I believe I explained my concept further to say (in other words) if you put a pump in the bathtub to represent the mechanics of rain, pumped enough water over the brick, the brick would be "flooded". If I remember correctly someone then tried to show off their insane mathematical skills and did the calculations of how much friction would happen if that much rain fell from the sky and said everyone would be boiled. I replied by saying, congradulations, you just explained hail (being sarcastic of course). One of my master trades is plumbing, and I deal on a daily basis with that kind of nonsense from engineers with no common sense. Of course it takes coordination between mechanic and engineer to get anything to work, but there are some real idiots out there. I will say it once again, I have never lied in this forum. What purpose would that serve? I originally came here to share the love I felt from God. What happened was my faith got tested, and debating here actually helped define my faith. Atheists afterall are great bullshit detectors. Unfortunately too many people turned out to be just mean people, and I don't have time in my life for that. I see nothing has changed, and it even seems worse.
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riVeRraT Member Posts: 5788 From: NY USA Joined:
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I have never seen either one. Don't make assumptions about me I stand by my assumption. If you did watch them, that would be your take on them. Plus unless you don't watch the news, then you probably are already influenced by their narratives. There aren't too many parent media corporations in the world, and the same bullshit gets broadcasted in every country. You can bet your global agenda on it.
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xongsmith Member Posts: 2442 From: massachusetts US Joined: Member Rating: 4.0
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You pretty much have to take the science for the reality it reveals or stay stupid. That's pretty much it. There, in a nutshell, is the difference between belief or acceptance of the current body of facts."I'm the Grim Reaper now, Mitch. Step aside." Death to #TzarVladimirtheCondemned! Enjoy every sandwich! - xongsmith, 5.7dawkins scale
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Phat Member Posts: 17481 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.0 |
riVeRrat writes: It is worse because the world is getting worse. I am the mean guy here...the one whom everyone hates/disagrees with and dog piles me. Its OK, i accept the role that Faith once had. The reason I am so mean is because I'm human. I say things that most conservatives would never admit publicly. I will say it once again, I have never lied in this forum. What purpose would that serve? I originally came here to share the love I felt from God. What happened was my faith got tested, and debating here actually helped define my faith. Atheists afterall are great bullshit detectors. Unfortunately too many people turned out to be just mean people, and I don't have time in my life for that. I see nothing has changed, and it even seems worse. I don't hate poor people, but I'll be damned if I will ever support a socialist agenda. I do believe that stuff in the Bible will happen. I think that China will let itself become more socialist and less communist as they become the global leader, and will in fact attempt to marry Western Capitalism. They have already stolen half our secrets and made them their own!! ![]() The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him.” - Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is Within You (1894). When both religious and non-religious people reach the same conclusions then you know religion isn't the reason.--Percy Democrats should not be the only party. Respect the two-party system. -Phat, in December 2022 We see Monsters where Science shows us Windmills.~Phat, remixed
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riVeRraT Member Posts: 5788 From: NY USA Joined: |
I don't know why you bother Phat. I was just accused of making assumptions, and in the same post rimgo was making assumptions about me. The hypocricy is at an all time high and I even heard a leftist say he was proud of being a hypocrite. I guess it makes sense then. It's the evolution of progressivism. Sad because I was a progressive at one time. Now it's just a mental disease.
The whole game of the left for the last couple years is to demonize someone so they can be their true evil selves and then attack you or try to cancel you. The funny part is that you almost never experience any of that in real life. The world is full of keyboard warriors. If they can't accept the truth of science requiring faith, well then they can just keep living in their fantasy worlds. I put my faith in both God and science, but sometimes I don't trust science. I do trust the scientific method. The behaivor of people in here leads me to believe they don't trust the scientific method, or do they practice what they preach.
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Phat Member Posts: 17481 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.0 |
I have thick skin. I make only one basic assumption around here--that "they" will disagree with me. I expect it. It appears that you and GDR expect the peanut gallery to repent of their independent critical thinking conclusions and defect en masse to ...well, to wherever one would expect them to defect to.
![]() ![]() Maybe you should see what AI thinks. I used to play around with Cleverbot. At times, the AI answers cut through the bullshit known as bias that we humans are saddled with. ![]() The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him.” - Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is Within You (1894). When both religious and non-religious people reach the same conclusions then you know religion isn't the reason.--Percy Democrats should not be the only party. Respect the two-party system. -Phat, in December 2022 We see Monsters where Science shows us Windmills.~Phat, remixed
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Percy Member Posts: 21387 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 3.7 |
--Percy
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ringo Member Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: Member Rating: 2.9 |
riVeRraT writes:
The example is entirely from memory (which is not always 100% accurate).
Either you have a good memory, or you spent all night looking for an example. riVeRraT writes:
I don't believe in absolutes, which is why I said that you were EITHER a liar or a huge idiot. I am also open to additional options if you're worried about false dichotomies.
... your example is absolutely not proof of me lying. riVeRraT writes:
Do you understand why that claim is worthless?
I will say it once again, I have never lied in this forum. riVeRraT writes:
Are you suggesting that nobody has ever lied? Because if other liars have had a purpose, then there is one or more purposes.
What purpose would that serve? riVeRraT writes:
Good. You can have mine too - but it turned out not to be real.
I originally came here to share the love I felt from God. riVeRraT writes:
I'm practically drowning in the love pouring off of you, too.
Unfortunately too many people turned out to be just mean people... riVeRraT writes:
I sense a farewell and a bow coming on. ... and I don't have time in my life for that. And after I went to the trouble of learning how to spell your name again.Come all of you cowboys all over this land, I'll teach you the law of the Ranger's Command: To hold a six shooter, and never to run As long as there's bullets in both of your guns. -- Woody Guthrie
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ringo Member Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: Member Rating: 2.9 |
riVeRraT writes:
You move the goalposts.
I stand by my assumption. If you did watch them, that would be your take on them. riVeRraT writes:
Actually, no. The Canadian news networks don't broadcast much opinion. There aren't too many parent media corporations in the world, and the same bullshit gets broadcasted in every country. But you go ahead with your conspiracy theories if that's what gives you comfort.Come all of you cowboys all over this land, I'll teach you the law of the Ranger's Command: To hold a six shooter, and never to run As long as there's bullets in both of your guns. -- Woody Guthrie
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ringo Member Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: Member Rating: 2.9
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Phat writes:
You contradict yourself. I don't hate poor people, but I'll be damned if I will ever support a socialist agenda.Come all of you cowboys all over this land, I'll teach you the law of the Ranger's Command: To hold a six shooter, and never to run As long as there's bullets in both of your guns. -- Woody Guthrie
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ringo Member Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: Member Rating: 2.9
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riVeRraT writes:
Thanks for getting off our side. ... I was a progressive at one time.Come all of you cowboys all over this land, I'll teach you the law of the Ranger's Command: To hold a six shooter, and never to run As long as there's bullets in both of your guns. -- Woody Guthrie
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ringo Member Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: Member Rating: 2.9
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Phat writes:
FUCK OFF, ASSHOLE! reparations will never happen. (Canada must have lost their mind on that one! Once you start down that slippery slope, you end up with mass social revolution!Come all of you cowboys all over this land, I'll teach you the law of the Ranger's Command: To hold a six shooter, and never to run As long as there's bullets in both of your guns. -- Woody Guthrie
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Phat Member Posts: 17481 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.0 |
This is the strongest response I've ever seen from you. I hope I'm not crossing the line into attacking you personally.
The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him.” - Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is Within You (1894). When both religious and non-religious people reach the same conclusions then you know religion isn't the reason.--Percy Democrats should not be the only party. Respect the two-party system. -Phat, in December 2022 We see Monsters where Science shows us Windmills.~Phat, remixed
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ringo Member Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: Member Rating: 2.9 |
Phat writes:
You attacked Canada. And in such a blatantly anti-Christian way. You should be ashamed of yourself. I hope I'm not crossing the line into attacking you personally.Come all of you cowboys all over this land, I'll teach you the law of the Ranger's Command: To hold a six shooter, and never to run As long as there's bullets in both of your guns. -- Woody Guthrie
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