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Message 6 of 153 (905699)
02-02-2023 11:33 AM
Reply to: Message 2 by Phat
02-02-2023 11:06 AM


Re: Welcome Back Jar
Phat writes:
Do you (atheists) feel that you are smarter and more in touch with reality then are believers?
I would never use a broad brush to paint these groups. I would need to judge these comparisons on a person by person basis.
I have interacted with believers who can intelligently discuss topics like Epicurus' Trilemma or the Problem of Suffering. They are quite smart people. I don't think they are any less in touch with reality than I am. They will even admit that their belief is based on personal experience and faith instead of the crap poor apologetics that we sometimes see. I have come across many believers that I have great respect for. None of us are infallible, including myself, so I certainly don't fault people for being human.
What I look for is honesty. What frustrates us is when people throw out honesty in the name of protecting an ideology or belief.

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Message 15 of 153 (905741)
02-02-2023 6:58 PM
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02-02-2023 4:05 PM


Re: Jesus red and Jesus blue
Phat writes:
I DO know that he clams to want to control open borders,
They are controlled.
he wanted to help the small businessman rather than taxing the crap out of them which disincentivizes them from even wanting to run small businesses.
Republicans had control of both the White House and Congress, and they never did that. Go figure.
He built a stronger military which keeps anyone from wanting to confront the United States.
The strength of the military never changed during his term.
Oh, and he gave massive tax breaks to the wealthy, which was an unpopular move, though trickle down economics is akin to priming the pump.
Put more food on the tables of the rich so there can be a few more crumbs that fall down for the rest of us??? Seriously??? All they did was prime the pump that pushed wealth up to the rich.

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Message 43 of 153 (906010)
02-06-2023 12:05 PM
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02-04-2023 11:50 AM


Re: Jesus red and Jesus blue
Phat writes:
I would, however, rather bash "socialism" than I would bash the US. Socialism wont work for one simple reason. Human nature.
Then explain how we would be better off without:
1. Medicare
2. Social Security
3. Public Schools
4. Public highways
5. Publicly funded police and fire departments

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Message 46 of 153 (906064)
02-06-2023 3:36 PM
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02-06-2023 2:41 PM


Re: Dissolve The Bill And Move On
Phat writes:
We wouldnt be better off without them.
All of those systems are socialism.
Socialism that altruistically and blissfully ignorantly "raises all boats" is or will become a globalist socialist agenda.
The US is already socialist, and nearly every conservative likes those socialist systems.
How would your run-of-the-mill blue collar conservative voter think of the eradication of public schools? What if they had to spend 10's of thousands dollars a year to send all of their kids to private schools? Should we not offer schooling equally to all children?
What would your run-of-the-mill senior citizen conservative voter think of getting rid of their socialist pension and socialist health care? What if they had to spend 10's of thousands of dollars a year on private health insurance whose premiums would be multiples of that paid by younger people? How would they afford these premiums without help from their socialist pensions?
It sure would be interesting if people who claimed they were against socialism lost all of their access to those socialist systems.

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Message 48 of 153 (906084)
02-06-2023 6:57 PM
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02-06-2023 3:58 PM


Re: Dissolve The Bill And Move On
Phat writes:
I told you before i'm in favor of limited socialist programs. Im not in favor of raising the tide on all boats.
Those limited socialist programs raise all boats with the same tide.

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Message 58 of 153 (906107)
02-07-2023 10:40 AM
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02-06-2023 8:04 PM


Re: Dissolve The Bill And Move On
Theodoric writes:
Foreigners should not be here taking what is rightfully mine.
Can't help but think of these types of memes.

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Message 59 of 153 (906109)
02-07-2023 10:42 AM
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02-07-2023 10:35 AM


Re: Dissolve The Bill And Move On
Phat writes:
Liberals insist that the conservative rich are vile and greedy.
I'm a liberal and I don't think that. They are no different than anyone else. They take advantage of the system they were given. What we need to do is change the system, not the people.

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