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Percy
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Message 166 of 188 (911805)
07-26-2023 10:44 AM
Reply to: Message 147 by Dredge
07-26-2023 1:02 AM


Re: Baby it's cold outside, (in the southern hemisphere)
Dredge writes:
marc9000 writes:
Be interesting to see her opening proposals on this. She's already in favor of abortion right up to birth
Feminism (the demonic enemy of motherhood) - as anti-life and genocidal as it is - isn't doing enough to reduce populations.
This isn't the topic of this thread, but anyway, like many things that marc9000 says, his Kamala Harris claim in Message 118 is untrue. He was challenged on it twice and didn't respond to either:
Oddly, you responded to his message twice.
It's about time an evil entity like the Democrats introduced euthanising the elderly ... start with anyone over 80 (sorry Mr. Biden) and gradually make the cut-off age lower and lower.
No political party has a monopoly on good or evil, but this aspersion about Democrats has no basis in fact, like most of what you say.
--Percy

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Message 167 of 188 (911806)
07-26-2023 10:55 AM
Reply to: Message 152 by Dredge
07-26-2023 5:35 AM


Dredge writes:
Phat writes:
Temperatures at Denver International Airport dropped to minus 24 degrees Thursday morning, marking the coldest December day since 1990 and 1 degree away from setting a record low for the month, according to the National Weather Service in Boulder.
Blame global warming ... it makes things colder ... apparently.
The term "global warming" led some people to make incorrect interpretations, like you're doing now. That's why the shift to the term "climate change."
The Earth's average temperature has been increasing and will be increasing for a long time, but there will continue to be local variations. On average we should expect to see higher highs and higher lows, but that doesn't mean that wide temperature variations are a thing of the past or that very low temperatures are no longer possible.
Why are you raising objections that are on a 6-year-old's level? What's the point? Why not dig into the topic of climate change a bit and learn something so you can have an intelligent discussion instead of throwing out a bunch of two and three sentence error-filled blurbs.
--Percy

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Message 168 of 188 (911807)
07-26-2023 11:01 AM


I see the troll has returned
It seems that discussion is still futile with Dredge the Pedo Cult Cheerleader.

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Message 169 of 188 (911816)
07-26-2023 6:09 PM
Reply to: Message 167 by Percy
07-26-2023 10:55 AM


Percy writes:
The term "global warming" led some people to make incorrect interpretations, like you're doing now. That's why the shift to the term "climate change."
The term "global warming" was replaced by the term "climate change" in a (futile) attempt to explain away cold climate events that seem to contradict the claim that the planet is warming unnaturally. We're expected to believe that abnormally-cold climate events are the result of global warming.

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Message 170 of 188 (911817)
07-26-2023 6:19 PM
Reply to: Message 155 by Theodoric
07-26-2023 7:34 AM


Hilarious.
I have a theory about why is the Left so bizarrely neurotic about racism - atheism means life is meaningless, so atheists invented a fake code of morality to make their lives feel more meaningful.

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Message 171 of 188 (911818)
07-26-2023 6:23 PM
Reply to: Message 161 by Percy
07-26-2023 9:52 AM


Percy writes:
Estimates vary but agree that by the end of the century much of Tuvalu will be uninhabitable.
... just like thousands of other volcanic islands that has been consumed by the ocean over millions of years.

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Message 172 of 188 (911820)
07-26-2023 6:42 PM
Reply to: Message 159 by Percy
07-26-2023 8:52 AM


It seems that you're a sucker for climate-change propaganda.
Dr. Peter Ridd is an Australian physicist and former professor (at James Cook University, North Queensland, Australia) who was sacked for criticising the climate-change bs written about the Great Barrier Reef.
Welcome to the climate-change cult.

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Message 173 of 188 (911821)
07-26-2023 6:43 PM
Reply to: Message 170 by Dredge
07-26-2023 6:19 PM


As a person that has put with discrimination my whole life and as the father if a black child, I very much think you should go fuck yourself.

What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?


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Message 174 of 188 (911822)
07-26-2023 6:46 PM
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07-26-2023 6:42 PM


That is not why he was fired. He refused to take down confidential information he posted online. Typical liar for jesus.

What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?


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Percy
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Message 175 of 188 (911830)
07-26-2023 8:42 PM
Reply to: Message 169 by Dredge
07-26-2023 6:09 PM


Dredge writes:
The term "global warming" was replaced by the term "climate change" in a (futile) attempt to explain away cold climate events that seem to contradict the claim that the planet is warming unnaturally. We're expected to believe that abnormally-cold climate events are the result of global warming.
I provided you a correct explanation. Why would you think temperature variations and cold extremes would be absent on a planet only a couple degrees warmer? You don't seem to be thinking rationally. To this point our planet is about 2°F warmer than a couple hundred years ago. That's nowhere near enough to make cold extremes disappear. If there's some logic or rationale behind your thinking then it's not apparent. You're going to have to explain.
Another reason for preferring the term "climate change" is that it's more inclusive of what's happening to our planet. Climate change is more than just an increasing average world temperature. It's also rising sea levels, shrinking glaciers, expanding deserts, shinking tundra, melting permafrost and the resulting release of methane, earlier beginnings of spring and later starts to winter, changes to where crops will grow, changing ecologies that force plant and wildlife migration or even extinction due to loss of habitat, warming oceans that affect fishery locations, and so forth.
--Percy

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Message 176 of 188 (911832)
07-26-2023 9:00 PM
Reply to: Message 170 by Dredge
07-26-2023 6:19 PM


So much wrong crammed into so few words.
Dredge writes:
I have a theory about why is the Left so bizarrely neurotic about racism...
Everyone of all political persuasions should be opposed to racism, especially during these times when racism is experiencing a rebirth on the right with influential politicians like Trump and DeSantis making it seem okay to overtly express racism.
...atheism means life is meaningless, so atheists invented a fake code of morality to make their lives feel more meaningful.
Atheism only means that one doesn't accept the existence of a being for whom there is no evidence and whose existence can only be accepted on faith. Which is as it should be. People accept God because of faith, not because he (or she or it) has been proven.
A sense of morality is an inherent quality that to varying degrees all human beings possess. It isn't something that requires religion.
The political left is less religious than the right, but most people describe themselves as religious or spiritual regardless of political affiliation.
--Percy

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Message 177 of 188 (911833)
07-26-2023 9:08 PM
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07-26-2023 6:23 PM


Dredge writes:
Percy writes:
Estimates vary but agree that by the end of the century much of Tuvalu will be uninhabitable.
... just like thousands of other volcanic islands that has been consumed by the ocean over millions of years.
Well, yes, exactly, islands generally disappear over long time periods such as millions of years, just as you said. If you look at the islands of Hawaii which formed over a geologic hot spot, the older islands in the chain are smaller because they've been eroded away over millions of years.
But Tuvalu will likely mostly disappear in less than a century, and that's because of the exceptional rapidity of current climate change. The geologic record reveals many periods of changing climate, but the climate change we're experiencing today is more rapid than any in the past for which we have evidence.
--Percy

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Message 178 of 188 (911835)
07-26-2023 9:20 PM
Reply to: Message 172 by Dredge
07-26-2023 6:42 PM


Dredge writes:
It seems that you're a sucker for climate-change propaganda.
I've provided a lot of data. What is it about that data that makes you think it's propaganda?
Dr. Peter Ridd is an Australian physicist and former professor (at James Cook University, North Queensland, Australia) who was sacked for criticising the climate-change bs written about the Great Barrier Reef.
I wasn't aware of Dr. Peter Ridd, but I just read his Wikipedia page. It's true that he's received a great deal of criticism for his views on climate change, but his firing from James Cook University was over another matter entirely, his public disclosures on the Internet of what JCU considered confidential information. Apparently he'd been censured by the university and was directed on numerous occasions to keep the matter confidential. When he publicly disclosed the information he was fired. Dr. Ridd filed suit which went through several appeals and eventually lost.
Welcome to the climate-change cult.
If climate change is shown wrong it will be by scientific data, not by calling names.
--Percy

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Tanypteryx
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Message 179 of 188 (914385)
01-13-2024 1:24 PM


Ice Storm
I know lots of people have much more extreme winter weather than we do in the Pacific Northwestern U.S. but we are getting hammered right now.
Here where I live we are having ice pellets, with about 2 inches on the ground and 18F. I feel fortunate, because last night they were predicting freezing rain which brings down lots of trees and powerlines. The Portland/Vancouver area is getting heavy snow and winds. The Columbia Gorge east of Portland is getting heavy snow and ice and 80-100 mph wind gusts.
We have Anna's Humming birds that over winter here so I am rotating feeders inside to thaw so they always have liquid in the feeders.

Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!
What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python
One important characteristic of a theory is that it has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie
If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --Percy
The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq

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Message 180 of 188 (914387)
01-13-2024 2:59 PM
Reply to: Message 179 by Tanypteryx
01-13-2024 1:24 PM


Re: Ice Storm
Here where I live we are having ice pellets, with about 2 inches on the ground and 18F.
I feel with you, Tany.
Here in Phoenix we have had a major fall in our daily high temperatures. From the 115°F just a few months ago to a daily high of only 64° today with predicted daily highs of only 70-77°F degrees for the remainder of the next 2 weeks. While we have escaped many of the small rain showers that are apt to pop up this time of year, we, daily, have had to endure hours-long stretches of warming sunshine contrasting the gentle 70° breeze through the valley.
Neither of our weather issues will remain for too long. In a few months neither of us will be suffering the cold any more.

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