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Message 17 of 188 (904309)
12-26-2022 10:43 PM
Reply to: Message 13 by marc9000
12-26-2022 9:45 PM


Re: Midwest unprepared
Why wasn't the midwest better prepared?
I'm in the midwest. It seems to me that we were pretty well prepared.
News reports over the past weekend and undoubtedly through this week will show countless examples of needless suffering, deaths, and monetary costs, from things like unnecessary travel, flooded buildings from burst water pipes, power outages, etc.
Some people ignore the warnings. Are you suggesting that we should become a police state, and force everybody to obey the warnings?
Could it be that the drumbeat of global warming / climate change has at least subconsciously caused the public to somewhat discard the possibility of extreme cold?
Unlikely. We expect periods of cold in winter. We have seen worse weather than this in previous years, though usually not in December.
It seems more likely that the drumbeat of right wing denialist propaganda may have caused some people to ignore the warnings.
Climate change and global warming are supposedly two completely different things.
Who is dumb enough to suppose that? Oh, I guess that right wing extremists such as marc9000 might be foolish enough to make that mistake.
Democrats aren't to blame?
Human failures are to blame. There are plenty of fallible humans on both sides of politics.

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Message 22 of 188 (904376)
12-27-2022 9:38 PM
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12-27-2022 9:27 PM


Re: Midwest unprepared
Who is dumb enough to suppose that?
Uh, the scientists who wrote that non-partisan link that I referred to above?
You have misunderstood what they say. Both terms have been used to refer to the affects of increased greenhouse gases.

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Message 30 of 188 (904399)
12-28-2022 9:22 PM
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12-28-2022 8:41 PM


Re: Midwest unprepared
A lot of people misunderstand liberal scare tactics.
Right wingers are the primary users of scare tactics.
A lot of people don't immediately understand how warming can mean cooling.
Nevertheless, refrigerators produce heat.
That was part of the reason for the lack of preparedness for the cold wave.
Do you have any actual evidence to support this claim? Or are you just making it up as one of your own political scare tactics?

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Message 33 of 188 (904402)
12-28-2022 10:25 PM
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12-28-2022 9:42 PM


Re: Midwest unprepared
When does heat produce cold?
Refrigerators do that. It's all part of thermodynamics.
Do you have any actual evidence to support this claim? Or are you just making it up as one of your own political scare tactics?
You would have to have watched the news, I can't recap it all for you.
I'll take that as an admission that you do not have actual evidence.

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Message 125 of 188 (911739)
07-25-2023 6:22 PM
Reply to: Message 121 by Dredge
07-25-2023 5:10 PM


marc9000 in Message 118 writes:
Ever wonder how those in southern Argentina, southern Chile, or New Zealand think about that, since they're in the dead of winter right now?
and
Dredge in Message 121 writes:
Many places in Australia are experiencing colder than normal temperatures this winter ... powerful evidence that the planet is heating up.
"Brilliant" comments about global warming.
If this is typical of what those on the political right are thinking, then we are doomed.

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Message 127 of 188 (911743)
07-25-2023 7:22 PM
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07-25-2023 7:15 PM


Dredge in Message 126 writes:
Yep, the oceans are rising ... but only in Tuvalu and sometimes in Alaska ... hilarious!
The oceans are rising in Miami, in New York City, in Venice and in many other places.
But keep wearing those blinders, and you might not notice.

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Message 132 of 188 (911749)
07-25-2023 7:59 PM
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07-25-2023 7:33 PM


Dredge in Message 128 writes:
If the oceans are rising in America, how come there are no reports of rising oceans in Australia?
On the front line of sea level rises -- University of Wollongong
Sea level rise will see 40pc of Australia's beaches lost, predicts new study
Climate change impacts on sea level rise - NSW
Hmm, what was that you were saying?

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Message 183 of 188 (914406)
01-15-2024 1:23 AM
Reply to: Message 182 by Theodoric
01-15-2024 12:03 AM


Re: Ice Storm
You must be in a relatively warm part of Wisconsin.
Here (Chicago suburbs) I woke up to -9, and it will go down to -16 tonight.

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