AZPaul3 writes:
Who's talking (about) democracy? We are a republic.
His entire quote was:
AZPaul3 writes:
Who's talking democracy? We are a republic. At the time of the formation the political dynamics were different. If I don't get my 2 senators then you don't get your republic. The majority can be harsh and I want protection.
I read him as describing
how the sausage got made. That goes along with the adage, usually attributed to Otto von Bismarck: "“If you like laws and sausages, you should never watch either one being made.” With all the politicking and negotiating and compromising with everybody whose vote you're trying to get adding extra riders or getting other parts removed or modified, even if you started out with a very good bill what you end up tends to be a "Frankenbill", which the LA Times described as "an awkward creation stitched together from scraps of this and that." -- though examples of Frankenbills abound in every legislature.
I see that as the point that AZPaul3 was making. The US Constitution is not an integral whole which was created out of whole cloth and which works seamlessly (having no seams having been created out of whole cloth), but rather it was created as a Frankenbill created from compromises to satisfy enough disparate special interests to get some kind of final product that nobody could be happy with but at least not unhappy enough to block it.
The Electoral College is one example of such a compromise. Having each state represented by two senators regardless of population is another example. And to make matters worse, senators were not elected directly by the people, but rather by their state's legislature -- it took the
Seventeenth Amendment (1912, which was also when the 48th state, Arizona, became a state along with New Mexico (Oklahoma was in 1907)) to change that to having senators elected directly by the people.
What is the difference between a Democracy and a Republic?
Already answered by others, but raising that question has become common among far-right trolls (remember how Faith kept dredging up that nonsense) in their efforts to generate confusion as they "own the libs".
The structure of our government is a republic, borrowed by James Madison from Roman government, including the Senate. Direct democracy did not work in Athens because citizens had work and a living to attend to and couldn't take so much time off. In a republican system (lower case, you will notice), representatives are selected to do the voting for their constituents.
How those representatives are selected is the other question. We do it
democratically (lower case "d") by holding democratic elections -- though as noted above, before 1912 we did not elect our senators directly.
Gotta get ready to go out. Going out to see a show with my son who's visiting from Florida.