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Phat Member Posts: 18745 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.2 |
Im in the same boat as the teachers and other pension funded professions! I started in the grocery industry way back in 1989. 34 years ago. I was 29 years old and finally had a stable union job in the grocery store industry. My employer at that time was Cub Foods, a subsidiary of Super Valu
From Article: Wiki:Now it gets interesting! ![]() Wiki:To summarize, Cerbus helped spin off the 11 Cubs stores here in Denver, I got laid off and they then bought Albertsons, laid a bunch of them off, bought Safeway in 2013 and laid a bunch of us off, merged with Albertsons and now want to merge with Kroger. In reality, they will sell Kroger 15 or so of our stores, lay the rest of us off (or wreck the union and trash our pension) and pay off their shareholders out of the sales. After squeezing the equity out of my employer, they will leave it to its doom. Again. In 2007 UNFI acquired Millbrook Distribution Services.[8] In 2011, UNFI signed a distribution agreement with Safeway Inc. for the distribution of non-proprietary natural, organic and specialty products. This agreement was terminated by Safeway in July, 2015,leading to a drop in share price and two rounds of layoffs, their first in the history of the company. UNFI owns Super Valu and supplies Whole Foods with its stuff. (Bezos The Clown owns Whole Foods! ) Republicans are no friends of mine. I see a bigger picture globally, however. If any of you are smart, you will realize that as long as the Chinese Government is communist, they are no friend of ours, either. As for Cerberus, they are like a "union" of wealthy investors. They are a private equity firm.
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Phat Member Posts: 18745 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.2 |
Several reasons. One notable quote:
Frontline: The central bank bails out banks, buys the failed bonds, sits on the bonds until they mature, and essentially insures the wealthy investors, Banks do have a 250,000 FDIC guarantee for their regular customers, but the banks don't have the money to pay everybody and so the FED essentially creates more money(leading to more inflation) in order to shore up the bank. Take mortgages. Lured by cheap interest rates, consumers refinanced their mortgages for many years as interest rates hovered near 0%. Biden looks us in the face and claims that stockholders wont get a bailout since they "took a risk" by investing in stocks. (which had a 50 year cycle of growth, by the way)And yet the banks again get bailed out rather than letting them naturally fail. Im telling you again...The Fed is either clueless or diabolical. I cant decide which at this point in time. And what about Pension Funds? What about the 100 trillion elephant in the room that is unfunded liabilities? What about social security, for crying out loud!! Edited by Phat, .
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Phat Member Posts: 18745 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.2 |
https://imageio.forbes.com/...sch/files/2017/11/Untitled.jpg
Dont twist numbers in order to make a socialist war cry.
Forbes:The entire net worth of the Forbes 400 is 2.68 Trillion. If we took ALL of the money from the Forbes 400, we would barely make a dent in the national debt, let alone Bidns proposed budget for 2023 alone. Quit sounding the Leftist war cry of needing a new Robin Hood. I dont know why you elitists are so concerned about Republican money. Maybe you think they should be forced to give it to Greenpeace or something, I dunno. ![]()
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nwr Member Posts: 6492 From: Geneva, Illinois Joined:
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(Now who is the villain? Who could it beee?) The villains are the people who voted for the interests of the super-rich and against their own interests. People like Phat.--> -->Fundamentalism - the anti-American, anti-Christian branch of American Christianity <-- <--
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Phat Member Posts: 18745 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.2 |
If there are only two choices and the choices are BAD and WORSE, what do you expect would happen? The rest of the world laughs at us. (Or perhaps they turn away in disgust!)
China,Russia, India,Brazil, Iran, and S.Africa have decided they no longer wish to trade only in dollars. You all can keep crowing about how great America and Mr.Biden are, until you find yourselves wiped out. Biden needs to be tougher against the fascist union of Chinese Industry and Western Government.
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nwr Member Posts: 6492 From: Geneva, Illinois Joined:
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If there are only two choices and the choices are BAD and WORSE, what do you expect would happen? I expect some people to vote for worse, because they have poor judgement on such issues.
The rest of the world laughs at us. That's probably because so many Americans make poor decisions.
China,Russia, India,Brazil, Iran, and S.Africa have decided they no longer wish to trade only in dollars. There's nothing I can do about that, other than avoid voting for incompetent politicians.
You all can keep crowing about how great America and Mr.Biden are, until you find yourselves wiped out. I don't crow about either.
Biden needs to be tougher against the fascist union of Chinese Industry and Western Government. Biden is limited by the strong opposition in congress. Presidents are not kings.--> -->Fundamentalism - the anti-American, anti-Christian branch of American Christianity <-- <--
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Taq Member Posts: 10408 Joined: Member Rating: 5.3 |
Phat writes: You all can keep crowing about how great America and Mr.Biden are, until you find yourselves wiped out. In reality, other countries are dumping other currencies and buying up US dollars.
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Phat Member Posts: 18745 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.2 |
https://youtube.com/shorts/Ynh561K9D0E?feature=share
Ten second clip of Ray Dalios opinion. I cant understand people who say that continually raising the debt limit (beyond what we pay back, mind you) wont lead to eventual problems that the US cant handle. At the very least we should balance our yearly budgets. Part 2 clip: What should be done according to Dalio(15 seconds)https://youtube.com/shorts/Ynh561K9D0E?feature=share
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Percy Member Posts: 23285 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 5.6
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From the Forum Guidelines:
In your own words, describe Dalio's points, then contribute your discussion of them or advance your arguments about them. I think most of the people here have said they will not be watching your videos. --Percy
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9489 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: |
Really? Videos again?
continually raising the debt limit (beyond what we pay back, mind you)
What does that even mean?What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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Tanypteryx Member Posts: 4597 From: Oregon, USA Joined:
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Theodoric in Message 280 writes: Phat in Message 278 writes:
What does that even mean? continually raising the debt limit (beyond what we pay back, mind you) It means we can add "raising the debt ceiling" to the long list of subjects Phat has no clue about.Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned! What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq
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Phat Member Posts: 18745 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.2 |
Don't play dumb. It means owing more year after year. Money that never gets paid back.
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Tanypteryx Member Posts: 4597 From: Oregon, USA Joined: |
Phat in Message 282 writes: Don't play dumb. That's good advice.
Phat in Message 282 writes: It means owing more year after year. Money that never gets paid back. So I was correct, something else you do not understand. It's an authorization to PAY for goods and services already bought on credit by our government. This is authorizing paying it back, Dumbass!Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned! What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq
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Phat Member Posts: 18745 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.2 |
OK, fair enough. So WHO does the government authorize to pay it back?
{or...WHO does the Federal Reserve authorize to pay it back?) And why does it never seem to get paid back? After all, the amount grows each year.
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nwr Member Posts: 6492 From: Geneva, Illinois Joined: |
Phat in Message 284 writes: And why does it never seem to get paid back? Because Republicans keep cutting the taxes that should be used to pay it back. You vote Republican, so you are part of the problem.--> -->Fundamentalism - the anti-American, anti-Christian branch of American Christianity <-- <--
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