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Phat
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Message 181 of 264 (903493)
12-12-2022 3:28 AM
Reply to: Message 180 by ringo
12-11-2022 1:24 PM


Rabbit Trail: Follow the peanuts
What I mean is that it is better to surround yourself with people who disagree with (and challenge) your biases and preconceived notions. That is why I call you guys the peanut gallery. You sit and watch any new believer/creationist come here and make a fool of themselves (usually, anyway) Occasionally you adopt them into your peanut gallery as a charter member, but y'all have such strict rules, I likely will never get added.

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Message 182 of 264 (903511)
12-12-2022 10:49 AM
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12-12-2022 3:28 AM


Re: Rabbit Trail: Follow the peanuts
Phat writes:
What I mean is that it is better to surround yourself with people who disagree with (and challenge) your biases and preconceived notions.
That is typical fake-Christian/creationist thinking - surround yourself with people who "don't understand" so you can feel superior. You don't use us to correct your biases and misconceptions. You use us to confirm them.
Phat writes:
That is why I call you guys the peanut gallery.
You should call us the peanut gallery because we ARE the peanut gallery, not because it's another term you don't understand.
Phat writes:
Occasionally you adopt them into your peanut gallery as a charter member...
A charter member and an adopted member are two different (mutually exclusive) things.
Phat writes:
... y'all have such strict rules...
No. We have NO rules. We may get to the same conclusions but its by different routes.
You should try to learn that when everybody in the room agrees but you, they might be right and you might be wrong.
Phat writes:
... I likely will never get added.
You ARE a member of the peanut gallery.

Come all of you cowboys all over this land,
I'll teach you the law of the Ranger's Command:
To hold a six shooter, and never to run
As long as there's bullets in both of your guns.
-- Woody Guthrie

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AZPaul3
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Message 183 of 264 (903527)
12-12-2022 12:40 PM
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12-12-2022 3:28 AM


Re: Rabbit Trail: Follow the peanuts
I likely will never get added.
Oh, Phat, you're just as guilty as the rest of us. You have your own seat in the peanut gallery. It's got your name on it and everything. You've been sitting in it since 12-29-2003.

Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!

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Phat
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Message 184 of 264 (903537)
12-12-2022 4:01 PM
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12-12-2022 12:40 PM


Re: Rabbit Trail: Follow the peanuts
In the House and Senate they only have Red Seats or Blue Seats. Where are the moderates?

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Message 185 of 264 (903539)
12-12-2022 4:10 PM
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12-12-2022 4:01 PM


Re: Rabbit Trail: Follow the peanuts
Some in the red seats and some in the blue seats. In both houses there are even some white seats. No green seats tho.

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Phat
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Message 186 of 264 (903671)
12-15-2022 1:48 AM
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12-12-2022 4:10 PM


Red+Blue Makes Green?
So by saying "no green seats" are you proclaiming, tongue-in-cheekily, that there is no middle ground for compromise between the two ideologies?

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Message 187 of 264 (903676)
12-15-2022 2:42 AM
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12-15-2022 1:48 AM


Re: Red+Blue Makes Green?
Blue plus yellow makes green, using subtractive colors (ie, mixing pigments, eg crayons as you must have observed in your childhood). Using additive colors (ie, mixing light), green is one of the primary colors (ie, red-blue-green, hence the RGB codes on computer displays).

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Message 188 of 264 (903683)
12-15-2022 9:26 AM
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12-15-2022 2:42 AM


Re: Red+Blue Makes Green?
Thanks for clarifying. I did know that crayons or paint mixing was different from light mixing, but I never knew why. I guess I never paid enough attention in science class. I probably could have done well had I cared, but at that time (9th grade, maybe?) I was still dealing with identity issues and really didn't want to pay attention. Looking back, I wish that I had.

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Message 189 of 264 (903684)
12-15-2022 9:39 AM
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12-15-2022 2:42 AM


Reforming My Analogy To AZ3
dwise1 writes:
Blue plus yellow makes green, using subtractive colors (ie, mixing pigments, eg crayons as you must have observed in your childhood). Using additive colors (ie, mixing light), green is one of the primary colors (ie, red-blue-green, hence the RGB codes on computer displays).
I learned something today!
AZ writes:
I just hope no one is expecting anything other than amusement. I mean, no one round these parts and beyond is expecting any great revelation from this theater, are they?(...)The concept of intelligence was not his discovery. Intelligence itself was. There was no intelligence before Mr. ID found it. But he had to open the damn box, it got out and spread everywhere, even dolphins. Missed republicans, though.
Oh the comedy! It hurts! Funny, but I occasionally see myself behaving like that! I'm a Legend in my own Mind! Lets get back to Ray Dalio,shall we?

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Message 190 of 264 (903688)
12-15-2022 10:50 AM
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12-15-2022 9:26 AM


Re: Red+Blue Makes Green?
For color mixing, science class would have told you why while art class would have told you how. In Alton Brown's episode on Xmas cookies, he demonstrates how to create many colors of icing out of the three primary subtractive colors. An aid that he offers is a color wheel he bought at an art supply store.
In high school and college I worked for my father, a general contractor and master carpenter. His painting subcontractor was also a master of his craft. He would buy odd lots of paint of whatever colors (within reason, I would think) and then mix in pigments to change the color to whatever color was needed -- I say within reason since I cannot imagine being able to bring black paint back to white with pigments since black and brown are basically all subtractive colors mixed together (just as white light is all additive colors mixed together ).
Back in the CGA (Color Graphics Adapter) days when we had sixteen colors to work with, each letter location was defined by an 8-bit byte with four bits for the foreground and another four bits for the background color. Those four bits were RGBI (red-green-blue-bright) with which you could define any of the 16 colors; eg, 11112 was white, 11102 was gray as was 00012 (as I recall), and 00002 was black.
Also, 11012 (red-green-bright) was yellow while 11002 was dark yellow, which looked rather like brown. For our greenhouse control systems, we provided an IBM XT clone with a Hercules adapter which was high definition monochome. The text color we had chosen was based on that adapter, so we used yellow text either bright or dim. It wasn't until a customer had requested a color adapter that we realized that the dim yellow "looked like a shitty brown". The good news was that the company finally sprung for a development PC with a color adapter in order to avoid other such surprises.
On the Web, we use a hex triplet notation which gives a color's RGB values in a range from 0 to 255 (#00 to #FF in hexadecimal (base 16), which computer types are conversant in) color codes like:
White -- #FFFFFF
Black -- #000000
Red -- #FF0000
DarkRed -- #8B0000
Crimson -- #DC143C
Pink -- #FFC0CB
Orange -- #FFA500
Yellow -- #FFFF00
Gold -- #FFD700
Purple -- #800080 (ie, mid-range red and blue)
Magenta -- #FF00FF (ie, full-range red and blue)
Green -- #008000 (ie, mid-range green)
Lime -- #00FF00 (ie, full-range bright green)
Blue -- #0000FF
DarkBlue -- #00008B
Navy -- #000080
LightBlue -- #ADD8E6
Cyan -- #00FFFF (AKA "Aqua")
Web software also uses well-defined color names, each of which translates to a specific hex triplet. One lookup reference is at "140 named colors".
Share and enjoy!

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Message 191 of 264 (903707)
12-15-2022 12:48 PM
Reply to: Message 186 by Phat
12-15-2022 1:48 AM


Re: Red+Blue Makes Green?
Phat writes:
So by saying "no green seats" are you proclaiming, tongue-in-cheekily, that there is no middle ground for compromise between the two ideologies?
I thought he was referring to the Green Party.

Come all of you cowboys all over this land,
I'll teach you the law of the Ranger's Command:
To hold a six shooter, and never to run
As long as there's bullets in both of your guns.
-- Woody Guthrie

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AZPaul3
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Message 192 of 264 (903722)
12-15-2022 6:33 PM
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12-15-2022 1:48 AM


Re: Red+Blue Makes Green?
So by saying "no green seats" are you proclaiming, tongue-in-cheekily, that there is no middle ground for compromise between the two ideologies?
No. Not proclaiming any such thing with or without my tongue being in any way involved. I could lick this subject with an extensive oral presentation, but, I'm shy.

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Message 193 of 264 (903978)
12-19-2022 7:10 PM


Observation.
Just an observation here at 5 pm Phoenix time.
All the national news channels, cept one, are focused on the House committee's indictment of Trump on criminal charges.
Fox News is pushing it's latest Hunter Biden laptop conspiracy.
[abe] Sorry, wrong thread, but there it is.

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Message 194 of 264 (903981)
12-19-2022 8:06 PM
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12-19-2022 7:10 PM


Re: Observation.
Correction:
All the national news channels, cept one, are focused on the House committee's indictment referal of Trump on criminal charges.
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Fox News is pushing it's latest Hunter Biden laptop conspiracy.
And, yeah, that's sadly typical of the FAKE News Network.
For example: On 06 Jan 2021 Sean Hannity called Trump multiple time (as I recall) begging Trump to call off his people -- ie, everybody, including Hannity, knew full well that those were Trump people attacking the Capitol. Then Hannity turned right around and "reported" on the air that Trump's people were actually Antifa.
Perhaps the most conclusive evidence that that was not Antifa is the fact that Trump did not immediately call in 82nd Airborne to clear them out like he ordered for the BLM demonstration at Lafayette Square (Trump ordered active duty Army troops in, which was damned illegal so Esper kept ordering them back). The very fact that Trump refused to take any action is evidence that he knew full well that the "rioters" were his people.

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Message 195 of 264 (903982)
12-19-2022 8:34 PM
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12-19-2022 8:06 PM


Re: Observation.
Correction:
My reading of the buzz is that this is a legal indictment. The House, acting as grand jury, billed a criminal indictment to the prosecutors (DOJ). Now it is up to them whether formal charges are filed.
But that's, legal eagle internet stuff. Still the word fits. They rubbed his face in his crimes. That's indictment. This weeks buzz will be interesting. Can he be arrested? Will he do the perp walk?

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