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Message 43 of 106 (904008)
12-20-2022 9:00 AM
Reply to: Message 42 by Dredge
12-20-2022 4:55 AM


Re: Guilty
I usually don't take sides here but it appears that you are trolling, Dredge.
|To be fair, I see where I have not answered some of your posts so I will do so here.
Concerning my favorite Pope, yes I liked John Paul II. I could sense the Holy Spirit in him. Personally, I don't sense this Spirit in all popes, or all priests or all Pastors. Very few have it (The Spirit). I sense it in a few people here at EvC though not all of them.
And of course, the critics will argue that
1) They don't sense "it" in me
2) Why wouldn't God simply give his Spirit to everyone rather than picking and choosing?

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Phat
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Message 57 of 106 (904064)
12-21-2022 8:58 AM
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12-20-2022 9:34 AM


False Religions,Fake Popes,and The Truth
Dredge writes:
I didn't see much Holy Spirit in JP2 (John Paul II) when he kissed the anti-Christ Koran in public. It looked more like the spirit of Satan to me.
You are too conservative on this one, in my opinion. Billy Graham, The Protestant Pope, was also a multi-culturalist yet was very effectively used by God to bring about peace and unity rather than division.
Granted, the counter-argument in religious debates will quote the Bible.
Matthew 10:34 but keep in mind that the division that Jesus brought was between the Holy Spirit (Himself) and the other fake spirits. Critics here at EvC always lambaste and mock me for daring to suggest that there even are fake "spirits" and to be fair, some of them (the demons, not the peanut gallery) occasionally use me too.
I believe, however, that we on this planet are involved in an evolving spiritual war. This iwar is within ourselves and our relationships with each other. (God first, each other second)
When Jesus was crucified He declared: It is finished! John 19:30
My belief is that the occupying army of spirits still has to be forcibly evicted from the human mind and heart.(sorta like how German troops had to be forcibly evicted from Europe even after D-Day. )
This process takes time and only God knows how much time it will take. Things will get worse before they get better. One other thing that you and I disagree on is the pre-eminence of the Roman Catholic Church over other forms of Protestantism. I believe that you (any individual believer) either have the Spirit or you don't. This includes Popes, Pastors, and Princes.
Critics will say that they used to be believers until they saw the true light of reason and evidence. There is natural light and spiritual light. The light shines in the darkness (yet) the darkness has not understood it.

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Message 58 of 106 (904065)
12-21-2022 9:03 AM
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12-21-2022 8:55 AM


Vile and evil Christians
Theo would be impressed (perhaps) if he actually saw an honest Christian rather than a pretender. So many of us become corrupted by the propaganda of the enemy. And furthermore, Pogo was right!
You and I both are guilty of misrepresenting Jesus.

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Message 59 of 106 (904066)
12-21-2022 9:14 AM
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12-20-2022 2:33 PM


Re: Guilty
Dredge writes:
Unlike Pope John Paul II, Jesus didn't encourage sinners to remain on whatever erroneous spiritual path they were on.
Point noted, though the way I see it, Jesus treated people differently based on what they already knew.
One of my favorite scriptures is this:
In essence, the Disciples go out in public and relate to the people. If the people receive the Disciples, they receive Jesus(through the Holy Spirit) and if the people receive the Holy Spirit they receive GOD, Creator of all seen and unseen.
I think that God uses atheists and secular humanists to teach believers a thing or two.

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Phat
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Message 90 of 106 (907372)
02-22-2023 10:47 AM
Reply to: Message 86 by sensei
02-21-2023 6:29 PM


Sensei seems sensible
I like you, Sensei. You seem to want to actually have a conversation and exchange ideas with people...at least you are so doing with Taq. Good job!

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Phat
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Message 95 of 106 (907453)
02-24-2023 8:27 AM
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02-24-2023 3:43 AM


Re: Sensei seems sensible
I'm just a member of the peanut gallery munching on snacks and watching the discussion. We do have some questions for you at Message 275 however. I said that you were sensible, so now I and others are going to test you.

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