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Phat
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Message 46 of 73 (905683)
02-02-2023 9:31 AM
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02-02-2023 9:04 AM


Dredge, Please Take These Arguments Elsewhere
Though I realize that I am not the poster child for keeping threads on topic, I am going to step in and request that Dredge take this personal attack nonsense elsewhere. Lets keep this thread focused on Webb,Hubble and other Space Based Observatories.
We all need to work together around here to keep our threads as distinct as we can.
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~Phat

The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him.” - Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is Within You (1894).
When both religious and non-religious people reach the same conclusions then you know religion isn't the reason.--Percy
Democrats should not be the only party. Respect the two-party system. -Phat, in December 2022
We see Monsters where Science shows us Windmills.~Phat, remixed

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Message 47 of 73 (905706)
02-02-2023 11:59 AM
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02-02-2023 9:04 AM


Re: More religious crap
I think the truth is, you resent me bcoz you can't be me.
No. I just don't like people who are intentionally ignorant and lie in the face of demonstrable reality. People such as you.
I keep telling you, Altar Boy, those jesus meat crackers have rotted your brain.

Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!

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Theodoric
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Message 48 of 73 (905717)
02-02-2023 12:46 PM
Reply to: Message 44 by Dredge
02-02-2023 8:53 AM


Re: More religious crap
You are an idiotic, willfully ignorant fool.
quote:
1
a
: a Spanish half real piece formerly current in the South
b
: HALF DIME
2
: something trivial
Picayune Definition & Meaning - Merriam-Webster
Jar is too nice to say it so I will. Go fuck yourself.

What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?


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Phat
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Message 49 of 73 (905959)
02-05-2023 3:47 PM
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02-02-2023 12:46 PM


Getting Back On Topic
I had to look up something to talk about, since I angered ringo (which I didnt mean to do) and saw you cussing up a storm here too...though I realize that you express yourself more readily with profanity. When ringo does it, I get worried.
Anyway, does anyone remember when I stated that 80% of the population of the US is East of Kansas, 20% West of Kansas, and of that, 12% California?
This image from NASA proves it. I got it from this page: NASA Mission,Goals,and Objectives
My point in posting this was to comment on a topic that pertains to NASA.

The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him.” - Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is Within You (1894).
When both religious and non-religious people reach the same conclusions then you know religion isn't the reason.--Percy
Democrats should not be the only party. Respect the two-party system. -Phat, in December 2022
We see Monsters where Science shows us Windmills.~Phat, remixed

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Theodoric
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Message 50 of 73 (905966)
02-05-2023 5:00 PM
Reply to: Message 49 by Phat
02-05-2023 3:47 PM


Re: Getting Back On Topic
This picture proves nothing of the sort. You may be correct, but this picture is irrelevant.

What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?


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Theodoric
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Message 51 of 73 (905967)
02-05-2023 10:00 PM
Reply to: Message 49 by Phat
02-05-2023 3:47 PM


Re: Getting Back On Topic
Do you have any actual evidence to support your claim? You may be correct but I have serious doubts that it is that those #'s are correct.
ABE
if you need to provide an explanation as to how your comment is on topic it is most assuredly not on topic.

What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?


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PaulK
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Message 52 of 73 (905970)
02-06-2023 9:10 AM
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02-05-2023 3:47 PM


Re: Getting Back On Topic
quote:
Anyway, does anyone remember when I stated that 80% of the population of the US is East of Kansas, 20% West of Kansas, and of that, 12% California?
That obviously can’t be right as written. Sounds like you’re counting Kansas and other Midwestern States as being East of Kansas which doesn’t make sense. There should be a substantial chunk of population that aren’t East or West of Kansas (such as those actually living IN Kansas).
(From my reading about 24% of US Population is West of Kansas, with 12% in California)

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Dredge
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Message 53 of 73 (905971)
02-06-2023 9:16 AM
Reply to: Message 47 by AZPaul3
02-02-2023 11:59 AM


Re: More religious crap
APauling666 writes:
demonstrable reality
Comedy gold. There's nothing funnier than a Darwinoid (like yourself) pontificating about
"demonstrable reality", bcoz when it comes to "demonstrable reality", your Darwinist fairy tale gets shot down in flames.
For example,
1. You can't demonstrate that life on earth is the result of a contiguous process of biological evolution.
2. You can't demonstrate that any alleged evolutionary sequence of fossils is linked ancestrally.
3. You can't demonstrate that known evolutionary mechanisms produced the history of life on earth.
4. You can't demonstrate how any alleged evolutionary change evident in the fossil record took place.
So my advice to you, as a Darwnoid, is, don't talk about "demonstrable reality" ... unless you want to make a complete fool of yourself.

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Message 54 of 73 (905976)
02-06-2023 10:06 AM
Reply to: Message 53 by Dredge
02-06-2023 9:16 AM


Re: More religious crap
Of course we can, you jesus-chomping cannibal. Each and every one of your stupid "you can't" is in fact a we can, we did and we have the t-shirt.
Problem is, Altar Boy, you're too lazy to go learn. Thousands of examples answering each "you can't" on display in thousands of schools and museums for anyone to see and learn. But you sit on your thumbs and lament an ignorance that only exists in your head.
You are a willingly ignorant catholic, Dredge, proud to be dumb as a stump. Such display of stupid is destroying your church and indeed all churches. Thank god.

Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!

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Dredge
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Message 55 of 73 (905994)
02-06-2023 11:09 AM
Reply to: Message 48 by Theodoric
02-02-2023 12:46 PM


Re: More religious crap
Theodorkic writes:
Jar is too nice to say it so I will. Go fuck yourself.
If you don't receive an invitation to my birthday party this year, you have only yourself to blame.

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Message 56 of 73 (906013)
02-06-2023 12:10 PM
Reply to: Message 53 by Dredge
02-06-2023 9:16 AM


Re: More religious crap
Dredge writes:
You can't demonstrate that life on earth is the result of a contiguous process of biological evolution.
We can.
29+ Evidences for Macroevolution: The Scientific Case for Common Descent
You can't demonstrate that any alleged evolutionary sequence of fossils is linked ancestrally.
No, we can't. What we can do is demonstrate how the mixture of features in fossils exactly matches the predictions made by the theory of evolution. For example, we see fossils with a mixture of modern human and shared ape features. We see fossils with a mixture of dinosaur and bird features. We don't see fossils with a mixture of mammal and bird features. This is massive evidence for the theory of evolution.
You can't demonstrate that known evolutionary mechanisms produced the history of life on earth.
Yes, we can. I do that very thing here:
https://www.evcforum.net/dm.php?control=msg&t=20367
And again, more evidence:
29+ Evidences for Macroevolution: The Scientific Case for Common Descent
You can't demonstrate how any alleged evolutionary change evident in the fossil record took place.
Yes, we can. The nested hierarchial pattern demonstrates that these changes took place through mutation, selection, and common ancestry.

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ringo
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Message 57 of 73 (906037)
02-06-2023 1:29 PM
Reply to: Message 50 by Theodoric
02-05-2023 5:00 PM


Re: Getting Back On Topic
Theodoric writes:
This picture proves nothing of the sort.
I was going to say that it shows a higher light density in Alberta than in Ontario, which is backwards.
I would suggest that the picture is more indicative of how close together the light sources are, two points close together not being resolvable.

Come all of you cowboys all over this land,
I'll teach you the law of the Ranger's Command:
To hold a six shooter, and never to run
As long as there's bullets in both of your guns.
-- Woody Guthrie

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Message 58 of 73 (906055)
02-06-2023 2:24 PM
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02-06-2023 1:29 PM


Re: Getting Back On Topic
Ringo writes:
I was going to say that it shows a higher light density in Alberta than in Ontario, which is backwards.
i think those are the tar/gas flames burning off from the megahuge fossil fuel efforts that led to the Keystone pipeline controversy.
KEEP IT IN THE GROUND!

"I'm the Grim Reaper now, Mitch. Step aside."
Death to #TzarVladimirtheCondemned!
Enjoy every sandwich!

- xongsmith, 5.7dawkins scale


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ringo
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Message 59 of 73 (906110)
02-07-2023 10:43 AM
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02-06-2023 2:24 PM


Re: Getting Back On Topic
xongsmith writes:
i think those are the tar/gas flames burning off from the megahuge fossil fuel efforts that led to the Keystone pipeline controversy.
Could be.

Come all of you cowboys all over this land,
I'll teach you the law of the Ranger's Command:
To hold a six shooter, and never to run
As long as there's bullets in both of your guns.
-- Woody Guthrie

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Dredge
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Message 60 of 73 (906393)
02-11-2023 12:34 PM
Reply to: Message 54 by AZPaul3
02-06-2023 10:06 AM


Re: More religious crap
APauling666 writes:
Each and every one of your stupid "you can't" is in fact a we can, we did
Con-man.

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