The Problem of Suffering

Just answers? To what questions?Condolences anyway. Your hurt came through.Poor mom was seeing god as a power to ask for favors.My uncle, a Methodist minister, used to lament wish-list prayers. God is going to do what god is going to do and our entreaties are useless.Why the added concern for her? Has she lost her god in total or is she looking at a new vision?What do you think anyone can provide answers to? Why does biology sometimes fail? How can a god be so callus? How can nature be so callus?What are you asking?

Then I'll leave you to them.

Why would he show favorites? Based on what? Capricious evil?The idea that he is not god to all, that he meters his love to some and withholds it from others, does not show an infinite love for his creation but defines his evil.Actually, having a small favorite family tribe from the start was a big tell-tale on this god of all the universe being a fake.

That's easy Tangle. A quote I once read answers this."Science adjusts its views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."

Do we have to? Can’t we just say the gods don’t exist and go live our lives free of the ghosts? Deconstruct gods, or rather the god concepts, to find nothing there. A rather useless exercise given the present state of our knowledge. It's like a racoon trying to wash a tuft of cotton candy.I say we pitch the whole lot of them. Let the concepts deconstruct themselves naturally and disappear from this universe, again.Which sorta answers the question. Pain and suffering are not due to any neglect by some gods but are a natural feature of all living things everywhere. Ours is not to entreat god’s lie. Ours is but to naturally suffer and die.

We can study us without invoking any gods. There are plenty of other fantasies to select for tests. Ignore the gods.

I can think of two possibilities real quick. God is an evil asshole or it doesn’t exist and we are at the mercy of the purposeless dispassionate natural world. I prefer the latter.

The toys ringo is talking about are the humans.Reading comprehension problem. Re-read the last three exchanges and try to acquire some context.

So you are a cavendish, not a banana. Got it.

Religious nutjobs fantasize a difference.

Your words are false and your head needs a psyshrink. You are spouting absolute nonsense.

The universe definitely does have a destiny, but no one knows what that will be. At present the going consensus is that 10^{super large number} of eons from now, when the last photon flatlines its energy potential, the universe will cease to exist.

Matter will, the hypothesis goes, decay into photons, which takes a long, long time. Then that energy, in the form of photons, will speed through the universe with nothing left to hit and will eventually redshift to flatline. And, no, that energy does not disappear. It is converted into the expansion energy of the universe, which now has nothing in it.Ask Ethan: When A Photon Gets Redshifted, Where Does The Energy Go?