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Percy
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Message 3751 of 3828 (919074)
06-21-2024 10:54 AM
Reply to: Message 3736 by candle2
06-17-2024 2:16 PM


Re: Fundie cat fight over made-up stuff
candle2 writes in Message 3736:
Dwise, you are ignorant of the real world. You have no idea of just how gullible you are.
Have more ironic words ever been spoken?
--Percy

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Theodoric
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Message 3752 of 3828 (919080)
06-21-2024 1:56 PM
Reply to: Message 3749 by Phat
06-21-2024 3:22 AM


Re: Holy Hubris
In fact, every single time a "Christian" replies to DWise1 this way, it reinforces his atheism.
I doubt that. Atheism is not like a religion and in need of reinforcement.

What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up, why would you have to lie?


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candle2
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Message 3753 of 3828 (919092)
06-23-2024 2:53 PM
Reply to: Message 3751 by Percy
06-21-2024 10:54 AM


Re: Fundie cat fight over made-up stuff
Percy, you wrote:
"Have more ironic words ever been spoken?"
***The man is wasting his life on nonsense. How insane
is it to believe that life leached from a rock.
How insane is it to think that all of the millions of
organisms evolve from life that leached from a rock.
The internet is full of celebrities, politicians, singers, and
rich business men who sold themselves to Satan.
They know that Satan exists, and they are willing to
exchange their opportunity for eternal life in order that
they might have what their heart desires now.
Dwise is actually fighting against God. He is pushing
Satan's false concept of evolution.
God desires for all to come to know Him, but there is a
point of resistance that can be crossed.
The ones who throw their opportunity away are the ones
who are brought up in the third resurrection. They are
resurrected just long enough to be sentenced to death.
These are the ones who gnash their teeth. It is pure mental
anguish for them to see what others will inherit, while they
perish. It hits them like a ton of bricks.
I hate to see anyone go through this!!!
Also, the internet is full of famous people who admit selling
their soul (life) to Satan.
The transgendered are everywhere, even in sports.
Look at these:
"Tennis FeMales nex wex"
"Tennis M(eow)ales"
It is impossible for some magicians to perform certain
deeds without supernatural assistance.
Look up "Eric Chien"
They show us how certain tricks are performed in order to
have us believe that all are possible without demonic help.
In the Arab nations these demons are called "jinns or jenns."
They are the genies of legend.
There is a real spiritual war being waged. It would be wise to
understand this. A wise person would do so.

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Percy
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From: New Hampshire
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Message 3754 of 3828 (919093)
06-23-2024 5:19 PM
Reply to: Message 3753 by candle2
06-23-2024 2:53 PM


Re: Fundie cat fight over made-up stuff
Percy writes in Message 3751:
candle2 writes in Message 3736:
Dwise, you are ignorant of the real world. You have no idea of just how gullible you are.
Have more ironic words ever been spoken?
I stand by what I said.
--Percy

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Zucadragon
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From: Netherlands
Joined: 06-28-2006


Message 3755 of 3828 (919094)
06-24-2024 6:28 AM
Reply to: Message 3753 by candle2
06-23-2024 2:53 PM


Re: Fundie cat fight over made-up stuff
You can't find a trick that isn't possible to do. But please try, just find one, find a trick that isn't possible without 'demonic aid'
Just one, so far, you pointed out a person whose tricks are all explainable quite easily, and you didn't bother to accept that.
So pick a trick, show me a domonic trick you silly goose.

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candle2
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Message 3756 of 3828 (919099)
06-25-2024 3:29 PM
Reply to: Message 3754 by Percy
06-23-2024 5:19 PM


Re: Fundie cat fight over made-up stuff
Percy, you stated:
"I stand by what I said."
I'm not questioning that. Dwise is very intelligent. Other
than Phat, he might be the most intelligent individual on
this forum.But, being intelligent does not prevent one
from being deceived.
He, you, and everyone else on this forum have been
deceived by Satan. Revelations 12:9 states that Satan
deceives the whole world.
Everyone looks at the powerful, rich, and famous and sees
what they want you to see.
You know that you thought all those Hollywood starlets
were beautiful women, when in reality you were lusting
after men. The same goes for the so-called men of
Hollywood.
The current president of America was born female; His
VP was born male. All high ranking politicians are
reversed gender.
If you and Dwise are so easily fooled by this fakery, how
can you be so adamant about your other beliefs?
Check out these sites on Youtube.
"Reversed Hollywood Couples part 3"
Also watch parts 1, 2, 4, 5.
And check out Stallone and his so-called daughters
"Sylvester Stallone Transvestigation"
Hollywood starlets have shoulders that are wider than
their hips; some are much wider. This is not common in
the general population.
I will make a complete list of these differences, and it
will become clear that the rich and famous are not in
the norm.
Another example is than the ring finger on males are
longer than the index finger. In females the index finger
is usually longer.
There are exceptions to this, but this generally holds true.
In Hollywood it is reversed.
Satan is the "prince of the power of the air." He controls
most of what we see and hear. No one makes it into
positions of wealth and influence without going through
him.
People in power use their influence to turn others from God.
The majority of them become addicted to alcohol or drugs.
Many take their own life, or are murdered because they
tried to buck the system.
I mentioned that God wants everyone who has ever lived
to come to Him, whether in this life or the one to come.
Matthew 12:32 states that some will not be forgiven in
this life or the one to come--the vast majority can.
Do not fight against Him. Do not entice others to lose
their belief in Him.
Do not take God's creation and ascribe it to nothing more
that blind chance.
God might forgive this; I don't know. But it is not worth the
risk

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Tanypteryx
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Message 3757 of 3828 (919100)
06-25-2024 5:33 PM
Reply to: Message 3756 by candle2
06-25-2024 3:29 PM


Re: Fundie cat fight over made-up stuff
It's baffling that someone could be writing these delusions on a computer and publishing it on the internet.
I am relieved that this is the only space I share with you!

Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!
What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python
One important characteristic of a theory is that it has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie
If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --Percy
The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq
Why should anyone debate someone who doesn't know the subject? -- AZPaul3
If you are going to argue that evolution is false because it resembles your own beliefs then perhaps you should rethink your argument. - - Taq

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jar
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Posts: 34140
From: Texas!!
Joined: 04-20-2004


Message 3758 of 3828 (919101)
06-25-2024 6:48 PM
Reply to: Message 3757 by Tanypteryx
06-25-2024 5:33 PM


Re: Fundie cat fight over made-up stuff
I'm convinced candle2 is simply a troll making shit up and tossing it around just to see the reactions. No real person could actually believe any of the silly stuff he posts.

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Tanypteryx
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Posts: 4597
From: Oregon, USA
Joined: 08-27-2006
Member Rating: 9.5


Message 3759 of 3828 (919103)
06-25-2024 8:52 PM
Reply to: Message 3758 by jar
06-25-2024 6:48 PM


Re: Fundie cat fight over made-up stuff
The funny thing about it in my mind is to me, candle seems like someone who believes he's sold his own soul. I could never trust him to be truthful.

Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!
What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python
One important characteristic of a theory is that it has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie
If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --Percy
The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq
Why should anyone debate someone who doesn't know the subject? -- AZPaul3
If you are going to argue that evolution is false because it resembles your own beliefs then perhaps you should rethink your argument. - - Taq

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Zucadragon
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Posts: 140
From: Netherlands
Joined: 06-28-2006


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Message 3760 of 3828 (919106)
06-26-2024 4:18 AM
Reply to: Message 3756 by candle2
06-25-2024 3:29 PM


Re: Fundie cat fight over made-up stuff
If you and Dwise are so easily fooled by this fakery, how
can you be so adamant about your other beliefs?
If you are so easily fooled by fakery, how can you be so adamant about your other beliefs? You aparantly are a virtuous man above all other men, because despite talking of how easy it is for some magical fantasy demon tricking people, you believe everyone else is being tricked, everyone else has 'fallen for it'
Meaning you must be a wholly unique character of wit and intelligence... Or, maybe, just maybe, you don't see your own fallibility and you've deluded yourself.
You'd rather believe in delusions than face reality. If demons and satan exist, you'd be their absolute advocate without even knowing it, because your insane ramblings only make people doubt your view of religion and reality more and more.
So, you're doing Satans job here, his #1 employee really, for free even. That's quite the accomplishment.

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Percy
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From: New Hampshire
Joined: 12-23-2000
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Message 3761 of 3828 (919110)
06-26-2024 8:03 AM
Reply to: Message 3756 by candle2
06-25-2024 3:29 PM


Re: Fundie cat fight over made-up stuff
candle2 writes in Message 3756:
Revelations 12:9 states that Satan deceives the whole world.
That would include you.
--Percy

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candle2
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Posts: 892
Joined: 12-31-2018


Message 3762 of 3828 (919124)
06-27-2024 7:33 PM
Reply to: Message 3760 by Zucadragon
06-26-2024 4:18 AM


Re: Fundie cat fight over made-up stuff
Zucadrago, why do you concern yourself with something
or Someone that you don't even believe in? It doesn't
make any sense.
I do not believe in the tooth fairy or the Easter bunny;
therefore, I would never reply to any posts about them.
Anyone can be fooled, but it is quite an accomplishment
to convince the whole world that the powerful, rich, and
famous are a different sex than what they present to us.
Don't try to make light of this. If Satan can deceive you in
regards to this, he can convince you of almost anything.
He could also, as difficult as it seems, convince youu that
all life is a result of evolution.
The fact remains that you, not me, is the one being
fooled. You could not see what was plainly in front
of your eyes.

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Zucadragon
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From: Netherlands
Joined: 06-28-2006


Message 3763 of 3828 (919130)
06-28-2024 5:44 AM
Reply to: Message 3762 by candle2
06-27-2024 7:33 PM


Re: Fundie cat fight over made-up stuff
Zucadrago, why do you concern yourself with something
or Someone that you don't even believe in? It doesn't
make any sense.
You don't see the irony in this statement do you?
You're literally posting crap in a forum that's all about providing evidence for things. You've multiple times shown you don't understand evolution, have made assertions without providing evidence for them.
You literally think Evolution is a scam brough by Satan, so you obviously don't believe evolution is real it seems, and then you're asking me, why do I concern myself with something I don't believe in?
Because I know, that when I assert something or respond to something, I can back it up with actual evidence.
Speaking of which, you have yet to point to a video of a magic trick that is truly magic and done through demons. You asserted this was a thing yet have not given any examples yet, I look forward to getting this discussion back on track and having you show a video which you think is magic through demonic powers.

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Percy
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From: New Hampshire
Joined: 12-23-2000
Member Rating: 6.8


Message 3764 of 3828 (919133)
06-28-2024 7:47 AM
Reply to: Message 3763 by Zucadragon
06-28-2024 5:44 AM


Re: Fundie cat fight over made-up stuff
Zucadragon writes in Message 3763:
I look forward to getting this discussion back on track...
candle2's discussion takes place mainly in his own head. The messages he posts here have very little to do with what is actually being discussed.
--Percy

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candle2
Member (Idle past 125 days)
Posts: 892
Joined: 12-31-2018


Message 3765 of 3828 (919136)
06-28-2024 9:35 AM
Reply to: Message 3760 by Zucadragon
06-26-2024 4:18 AM


Re: Fundie cat fight over made-up stuff
Zucadrago, the topic of this thread is "choosing a faith."
There are two sources we can choose to place our faith
in: these are evolution or creation.
It seems that those who place their faith is evolution do
not like to see it questioned.
Evolutionists have complete control of what is taught by
K-12, as well as our colleges and universities; our media;
and, our museums.
But, this is not enough for them. They actually want to
stop anyone from speaking against their religion of
evolution.
Without a Creator tell us how life came from non-life.
This has never been observed to happen.
Darwin believed that the little bugs that dart across mud
puddle just came into existence. They thought that it
was this easy.
Darwin also believed that the cell was filled with a jelly
like substance. We now know that the cell is more
coordinately complex than a space shuttle.
Science showed how ignorant Darwin was of this fact.
What we observe in every instance is that life comes from
existing life.
Dawkins realized this. But his solution was that life on
earth could be the result of panspermia. But this does
nothing but pass the buck.
We do not observe evolution today, nor have we since
the creation of Adam.
What we witness, year after year, is that plants and
animals produce their own kind.
Observable/operational science supports creation.
As far as being fooled it happens to all of us. Until God
opened my eyes I did not know that all men on TV were
transgendered, and vice versa.
And, I am not good. Paul stated that non of us are good.
But, God can make a change in us if we honestly want
Him to do so.
He can enhance our self-control and discipline. We can
learn to nurture patience, we can become a better person.
But none if us can do it on our own.
I needed God because I was weak. The strong have no need
of him.

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