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Message 46 of 116 (896013)
07-28-2022 2:02 PM
Reply to: Message 44 by ringo
07-28-2022 11:45 AM


Stay in context, argue, or fuck off.
Regards
DL

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Message 47 of 116 (896015)
07-28-2022 2:56 PM
Reply to: Message 45 by Greatest I am
07-28-2022 1:56 PM


GIA writes:
I said acknowledge it, not deny it.

They are denying it, stupidly.

Racism is born of fellowship.

Show the flaw in fellowship.
Given that we say we accept that we are all intrinsically racist, it's hard to follow your line of thinking that says we don't. Perhaps we're not racist after all?
Then we have this fellowship thing. It's a good thing; we need more of it. In fact we need to expand fellowship to the entire human race, not just our family, friends, tribe and football team. The world would be a better place with global fellowship.

Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London. Olen Suomi Soy Barcelona. I am Ukraine.

"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.


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Message 48 of 116 (896016)
07-28-2022 3:03 PM
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07-28-2022 2:56 PM


I agree.
We all have to embrace all colors and creeds and become one race.
You have better eyes than mine to have seen some admitting to being racist.
They are mostly defining it wrong and objective when it is subjective.
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DL

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Message 49 of 116 (896027)
07-29-2022 11:45 AM
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07-28-2022 2:02 PM


Greatest I am writes:
Stay in context...
I am in context. I quoted you directly. And I responded to what I quoted.
Greatest I am writes:
... argue...
It's your turn to argue. Respond to what I said.
Greatest I am writes:
... or fuck off.
I already told you that's not going to happen.
Message 45
Greatest I am writes:
Racism is born of fellowship.

Show the flaw in fellowship.
You said it yourself. The flaw in fellowship is racism.

"Let me win. But if I cannot win, let me be brave in the attempt."
-- motto of the Special Olympians

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Message 50 of 116 (896028)
07-29-2022 11:49 AM
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07-29-2022 11:45 AM


What is wrong with discriminating positively for your own tribe or color?
Regards
DL

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Message 51 of 116 (896030)
07-29-2022 11:56 AM
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07-29-2022 11:49 AM


Greatest I am writes:
What is wrong with discriminating positively for your own tribe or color?
It doesn't happen in a vacuum. Positive discrimination automatically comes with negative discrimination.

"Let me win. But if I cannot win, let me be brave in the attempt."
-- motto of the Special Olympians

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Message 52 of 116 (896033)
07-29-2022 2:48 PM
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07-29-2022 11:49 AM


Are you saying that Dachau is a positive form of discrimination for the aryan race?

Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!

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Message 53 of 116 (896035)
07-29-2022 3:30 PM
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07-29-2022 11:49 AM


What is wrong with discriminating positively for your own tribe or color?
Because we live in a society and dividing a society up into separate tribes who discriminate positively for their particular faction (and hence against all the other factions) can only result in the destruction of that society.
And since we all depend on that society and its stability for our survival, taking actions which weaken or threaten to destroy that society (and hence threaten our own survival) would very clearly be wrong. And extremely stupid.

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Message 54 of 116 (896037)
07-29-2022 4:53 PM
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07-29-2022 11:49 AM


What is wrong with discriminating positively for your own tribe or color?
Lynching, another positive discrimination for whites.
I have benefitted my whole life from white privilege. In my adult life, once I understood what white privilege and systemic racism were I have apposed both in every way I could think of.
Tribalism is a threat to civilization and species survival.
Cooperation of the whole human species (as unlikely as that seems) is the only thing that can save life on this planet. Unconstrained population growth, resource depletion, insect apocalypse and looming ecosystem collapse, and oh yeah, global warming have most likely sealed the fate of planet earth. Microorganisms will be fine but that's probably it.

Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python

One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie

If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq


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Message 55 of 116 (896044)
07-30-2022 11:26 AM
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07-29-2022 11:56 AM


Indeed.
Love creates hate.
Good creates evil.
Ending fellowship to end racism would not be mankind's best move.
Regards
DL

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Message 56 of 116 (896046)
07-30-2022 11:29 AM
Reply to: Message 52 by AZPaul3
07-29-2022 2:48 PM


There you go thinking small again.
Think larger issues and not just individual instances.
Please do not try to put words into my mouth.
I am usually quite clear.
Regards
DL

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Message 57 of 116 (896048)
07-30-2022 11:37 AM
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07-29-2022 3:30 PM


To unite us all is a laudable goal.
Good luck for the next generation.
This generation may not have the balls to do what needs doing.
As long as we evolve, we will compete in various ways, as we seek the fittest of us.
What is stupid is that we are not acknowledging our fittest and brightest and giving them power.
Regards
DL

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Message 58 of 116 (896049)
07-30-2022 11:45 AM
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07-29-2022 4:53 PM


See my last post and do not live by wish list.
We all want to rule the world, but none of us want our freedoms or liberties touched.
Wish that stupidity away.
In human terms, using the word freedom is stupid.
We cannot be born tree as we are born tribal.
End tribalism, fellowship created, and you extinct humanity.
Socrates would be laughing about freedom. Who would make your shoes was his reply and says it all.
Regards
DL

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Message 59 of 116 (896051)
07-30-2022 12:07 PM
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07-30-2022 11:29 AM


So you ARE saying that extreme and bloody racial violence is justified by your Nazi philosophy. You're saying you support bloodshed and violence against all the peoples your perceived racially superior type find as enemies.
You are a sick individual. You are one of the people who needs to meet the guillotine when the revolution comes.

Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!

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Message 60 of 116 (896052)
07-30-2022 1:03 PM
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07-30-2022 12:07 PM


You seem to be the Nazi here.
You must be reading yourself, or are just an idiot.
Quote whatever pushed your stupidity switch so far to the really stupid side and we can discus you fascist thinking.
Regards
DL

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