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Author | Topic: Rebuttal To Creationists - "Since We Can't Directly Observe Evolution..." | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Dredge Member Posts: 2855 From: Australia Joined: |
[qs=PhartThey are critically thinking humanists and need to be respected as a belief in their own right.[/qs]
Wake up, dum-dum. They are pawns manipulated by demons to spread godless propaganda in the name of science - ie, the theory of evolution.
They believe in positivity. In human reason. In data and evidence. And they will tell us that its not a belief. It is rationality itself.
Good Lord ... you're so clueless and brainwashed.
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Dredge Member Posts: 2855 From: Australia Joined: |
Phart writes:
Wake up, dum-dum. They are pawns manipulated by demons to spread godless propaganda in the name of science - ie, the theory of evolution.
They are critically thinking humanists and need to be respected as a belief in their own right.They believe in positivity. In human reason. In data and evidence. And they will tell us that its not a belief. It is rationality itself.
Good Lord ... you're so clueless and brainwashed.
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Phat Member Posts: 18633 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 4.1 |
Even if I thought someone was oppressed or possessed by a demon, by denigrating them and calling them fools or evil, I am only feeding the demon. I have actually experienced instances of demonic (or unexplained, for the critics in the conversation) presence/activity. Its been awhile, though. I think that part of the reason I no longer see or experience such stuff is because I myself am so carnal and weak. Now that my blood sugars are lower, my intelligence is coming back. Once my heart catches up, I will be ready to discern such stuff.
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Kleinman Member (Idle past 586 days) Posts: 2142 From: United States Joined: |
Kleinman:I think so as well. Things that used to be done in secrecy are now done in the open. 1 whenever I would heal Israel,the sins of Ephraim are exposed and the crimes of Samaria revealed. They practice deceit, thieves break into houses, bandits rob in the streets; 2 but they do not realize that I remember all their evil deeds. Their sins engulf them; they are always before me. Hosea 7:1-2
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Dredge Member Posts: 2855 From: Australia Joined: |
Kleinman writes:
"It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God" - Hebrews 10:31
They think they will avoid judgement for their sin. They will be in for a sad surprise.
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Phat Member Posts: 18633 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 4.1 |
Cardinal Dredge writes: Not at all. I am learning to express an argument not only through scripture and a theistic stance but by also taking the rational contrarian position. Its something you should try. You cant win a war if you don't know your enemy. And its why I have stuck around EvC long after folks such as you come and go. I actually like my enemy. ( and no, dum dum...its not the demons I like! )
Good Lord ... you're so clueless and brainwashed.
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Phat Member Posts: 18633 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 4.1 |
AK writes:
Why do any of us care? Why do your opponents care enough about you to let you go on and on and on without some administrator booting you?
Why do you care? You don't even understand what Darwin wrote.
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Kleinman Member (Idle past 586 days) Posts: 2142 From: United States Joined: |
Kleinman:Is it that hard to admit that you don't know what Darwin wrote?
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Phat Member Posts: 18633 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 4.1 |
OK I'll confess. I know little about what Darwin wrote. It does not interest me. Now what?
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Kleinman Member (Idle past 586 days) Posts: 2142 From: United States Joined: |
Phat:It shows how little you (and biologists) know or understand about biological evolution. Here is a key paragraph from Darwin's On the Origin of Species found on page 115: For it should be remembered that the competition will generally be most severe between those forms which are most nearly related to each other in habits, constitution and structure. Hence all the intermediate forms between the earlier and later states, that is between the less and more improved state of a species, as well as the original parent-species itself, will generally tend to become extinct. So it probably will be with many whole collateral lines of descent, which will be conquered by later and improved lines of descent. If, however, the modified offspring of a species get into some distinct country, or become quickly adapted to some quite new station, in which child and parent do not come into competition, both may continue to exist.
This paragraph gives the essence of Darwinian evolution, competition (which Darwin also calls the struggle for existence, and modification by descent. Biologists have done a reasonable job formulating the mathematics of competition, but they have failed to correctly describe the mathematics of modification by descent. And biologists don't understand how competition affects modification by descent. Since this is not of interest to you (because this is how bacteria evolve drug resistance and why cancer treatments fail), I suggest you find another thread that you are more interested in.
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8654 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 6.6
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Don’t be concerned, Phat. This is just Kleinman lying about the real math. He is trying to kill common descent which defies his views of Genesis. Like his two bogus papers his objections here also have no merit.
Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!
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Kleinman Member (Idle past 586 days) Posts: 2142 From: United States Joined: |
AZPaul3:This is appropriate advice for Phat. It is ignorant advice to someone that doesn't care.
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8654 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 6.6 |
The facts. Just the facts, ma'am.
Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!
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Kleinman Member (Idle past 586 days) Posts: 2142 From: United States Joined: |
AZPaul3:AZPaul3 hasn't learned much since getting an old quote from a television show from the 1950s.
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Dredge Member Posts: 2855 From: Australia Joined: |
Phat writes:
Darwin was a famous nineteenth-century scientist and author who dabbled in both biology and fairy tales. One of his best fairy tales was the one about bears evolving into whales. OK I'll confess. I know little about what Darwin wrote. Unfortunately, some feeble-minded folks can't tell the difference Darwin's biology and his fairy tales.
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