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Author Topic:   Rebuttal To Creationists - "Since We Can't Directly Observe Evolution..."
Dredge
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Message 2866 of 2932 (906450)
02-12-2023 9:28 AM
Reply to: Message 2863 by Kleinman
02-11-2023 1:01 PM


Re: Forewarned.
What about the murder of fish by humans? Fish are even closer relatives to ringo than bacteria are! Eating fish is virtually cannibalism!

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AZPaul3
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Message 2867 of 2932 (906452)
02-12-2023 9:39 AM
Reply to: Message 2865 by Dredge
02-12-2023 9:25 AM


Re: Forewarned.
Happy Darwin's Day!

Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!

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Kleinman
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Message 2868 of 2932 (906454)
02-12-2023 10:07 AM
Reply to: Message 2864 by Dredge
02-12-2023 9:17 AM


Re: Forewarned.
Kleinman:
We should start a protest group like PETA, but call it PETRR, people for the ethical treatment of ringo's relatives. We can start by marching on toothbrush manufacturers. Think of how many of ringo's relatives you spit down the drain every day. Such cruelty.
Dredge:
It too awful to even think about ... I will never clean my teeth again. Using toothpaste is murder!

And the scientific authority said, "Thou shalt not use toothpaste". And peace broke out for all that did not use toothpaste, for halitosis reigned the earth.

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Kleinman
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Message 2869 of 2932 (906455)
02-12-2023 10:09 AM
Reply to: Message 2865 by Dredge
02-12-2023 9:25 AM


Re: Forewarned.
Kleinman:
The leader of that takeover is using these stooges to deny God. They don't understand that denying their Creator has immediate and long-term effects on their souls. They have no idea of mercy and where that mercy comes from.
Dredge:
Well said. I've long contended that the raison d'etre of the theory of evolution is to deceive the masses into believing that life on earth is the result of a natural process that's well understood by science, thereby doing away with the need of a divine Creator ... and that the source of this deception is the Evil One.

It is a complex and clever deception. On one hand it enables these people to deny the existence of God based on a falsehood, and on the other hand, it causes harm and death to those suffering from drug resistant infections and failed cancer treatments. This is something that has come from the mind of someone totally set on evil.

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Kleinman
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Message 2870 of 2932 (906456)
02-12-2023 10:10 AM
Reply to: Message 2866 by Dredge
02-12-2023 9:28 AM


Re: Forewarned.
Dredge:
What about the murder of fish by humans? Fish are even closer relatives to ringo than bacteria are! Eating fish is virtually cannibalism!
On any scale, this is heartless. Did you hear the one about the one armed fisherman? He was telling everyone about this big fish he caught. When one of the people asked, "just how big was that fish"? The one armed fisherman stuck out his arm and said, "it was that long".

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Kleinman
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Message 2871 of 2932 (906458)
02-12-2023 10:14 AM
Reply to: Message 2867 by AZPaul3
02-12-2023 9:39 AM


Re: Forewarned.
AZPaul3:
Happy Darwin's Day!
Darwin got some things right but he really missed the target when it comes to universal common descent. He did give the correct explanation of how drug resistance occurs and why cancer treatments fail but biologists just can't figure out the math.

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Dredge
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Message 2872 of 2932 (906459)
02-12-2023 10:39 AM
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02-12-2023 9:39 AM


Re: Forewarned.
APauling666 writes:
Happy Darwin's Day!
... which is nature worship - ie, a pagan feast day celebrated by atheists. Fascinating.

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Dredge
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Message 2873 of 2932 (906460)
02-12-2023 10:44 AM
Reply to: Message 2870 by Kleinman
02-12-2023 10:10 AM


Re: Forewarned.
Let's not forget the plants, with whom we humans share a common ancestors. Next time you boil a potato, remember that you're boiling one of your cousins.

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Kleinman
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Message 2874 of 2932 (906465)
02-12-2023 12:02 PM
Reply to: Message 2873 by Dredge
02-12-2023 10:44 AM


Re: Forewarned.
Dredge:
Let's not forget the plants, with whom we humans share a common ancestors. Next time you boil a potato, remember that you're boiling one of your cousins.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/do14PAsILnU

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Phat
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Message 2875 of 2932 (906467)
02-12-2023 12:32 PM
Reply to: Message 2874 by Kleinman
02-12-2023 12:02 PM


Humor At Last
At last! Some humor.

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Phat
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Message 2876 of 2932 (906468)
02-12-2023 12:36 PM
Reply to: Message 2869 by Kleinman
02-12-2023 10:09 AM


Re: Forewarned.
So a question to Dredge and Kleinman.
Were Evolution ever proven beyond a reasonable doubt to be the truth, would that one fact destroy Christianity? Why or why not?

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Dredge
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Message 2877 of 2932 (906469)
02-12-2023 12:41 PM
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02-12-2023 12:36 PM


Re: Forewarned.
The Catholic Church teaches that evolution is compatible with Christianity.

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Dredge
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Message 2878 of 2932 (906470)
02-12-2023 12:51 PM
Reply to: Message 2874 by Kleinman
02-12-2023 12:02 PM


Re: Forewarned.
Considering our common ancestry, I see nothing unnatural or weird about a human being falling in love with a potato or a lettuce or an orange.

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Kleinman
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Message 2879 of 2932 (906472)
02-12-2023 12:53 PM
Reply to: Message 2876 by Phat
02-12-2023 12:36 PM


Re: Forewarned.
Phat:
So a question to Dredge and Kleinman.

Were Evolution ever proven beyond a reasonable doubt to be the truth, would that one fact destroy Christianity? Why or why not?
You are very slow at this. Evolution is true. Universal common descent is not true. We are not related to bacteria, potatoes, or chimpanzees. However, bacteria evolve drug resistance and cancer treatments do fail and both are due to evolutionary processes. Biologists have failed to understand how evolution works.

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Kleinman
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Message 2880 of 2932 (906474)
02-12-2023 12:55 PM
Reply to: Message 2878 by Dredge
02-12-2023 12:51 PM


Re: Forewarned.
Dredge:
Considering our common ancestry, I see nothing unnatural or weird about a human being falling in love with a potato or a lettuce or an orange.
So you do believe in mixed salads, whoops I mean mixed marriages.

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