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Author Topic:   Rebuttal To Creationists - "Since We Can't Directly Observe Evolution..."
ringo
Member (Idle past 439 days)
Posts: 20940
From: frozen wasteland
Joined: 03-23-2005


Message 2836 of 2932 (906041)
02-06-2023 1:45 PM
Reply to: Message 2834 by Kleinman
02-06-2023 1:31 PM


Re: Forewarned.
Kleinman writes:
Kishony and Lenski know of my papers but they have never commented on them publicly.
Exactly what I said. They don't agree with you.
You're in a dicey situation here. You keep mentioning Kishony and Lenski and Desai (oh my!) and at the same time you have to try to maintain your idiotic fiction that biologists know nothing. It' a wonder they knew which end of a test tube to use. So how can you rely on their data?
Kleinman writes:
You are such a sad tenderfoot.
Luckily you keep me laughing.

Come all of you cowboys all over this land,
I'll teach you the law of the Ranger's Command:
To hold a six shooter, and never to run
As long as there's bullets in both of your guns.
-- Woody Guthrie

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Kleinman
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Posts: 2142
From: United States
Joined: 10-06-2016


Message 2837 of 2932 (906043)
02-06-2023 1:52 PM
Reply to: Message 2833 by Dredge
02-06-2023 1:28 PM


Re: Forewarned.
Kleinman:
You are the confused tenderfoot telling us you are related to fecal bacteria.
Dredge:
So funny!

His claim is pretty strange as well. He's committing genocide against his own relatives every time he buys some toilet bowl cleaner.
Kleinman:
You have been brainwashed.
Dredge:
Ain't that the truth ... Brainwashed by con-men masquerading as scientists.

And these masqueraders can't explain the simplest examples of evolution, how drug resistance evolves, and why cancer treatments fail. The field of biology has been taken over by phrenologists.

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Kleinman
Member (Idle past 362 days)
Posts: 2142
From: United States
Joined: 10-06-2016


Message 2838 of 2932 (906044)
02-06-2023 1:53 PM
Reply to: Message 2835 by ringo
02-06-2023 1:33 PM


Re: Forewarned.
Dredge:
Brainwashed by con-men masquerading as scientists.
ringo:
Your brain, being too small to wash, produces nothing of value.

Doesn't the tenderfoot want to know who he has been brainwashed by?

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ringo
Member (Idle past 439 days)
Posts: 20940
From: frozen wasteland
Joined: 03-23-2005


Message 2839 of 2932 (906045)
02-06-2023 1:57 PM
Reply to: Message 2838 by Kleinman
02-06-2023 1:53 PM


Re: Forewarned.
Kleinman writes:
Doesn't the tenderfoot want to know who he has been brainwashed by?
I want to know why you're so confused about grandparents and cousins. Why are you afraid to answer?

Come all of you cowboys all over this land,
I'll teach you the law of the Ranger's Command:
To hold a six shooter, and never to run
As long as there's bullets in both of your guns.
-- Woody Guthrie

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ringo
Member (Idle past 439 days)
Posts: 20940
From: frozen wasteland
Joined: 03-23-2005


Message 2840 of 2932 (906046)
02-06-2023 1:58 PM
Reply to: Message 2837 by Kleinman
02-06-2023 1:52 PM


Re: Forewarned.
Kleinman writes:
He's committing genocide against his own relatives every time he buys some toilet bowl cleaner.
Genocide means people.

Come all of you cowboys all over this land,
I'll teach you the law of the Ranger's Command:
To hold a six shooter, and never to run
As long as there's bullets in both of your guns.
-- Woody Guthrie

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Kleinman
Member (Idle past 362 days)
Posts: 2142
From: United States
Joined: 10-06-2016


Message 2841 of 2932 (906047)
02-06-2023 2:00 PM
Reply to: Message 2836 by ringo
02-06-2023 1:45 PM


Re: Forewarned.
Kleinman:
Kishony and Lenski know of my papers but they have never commented on them publicly.
ringo:
Exactly what I said. They don't agree with you.

You are not correct tenderfoot, you are jumping to conclusions. You don't know whether they agree or disagree based on their lack of public comment. Your delusions are running rampant.
Kleinman:
You are such a sad tenderfoot.
ringo:
Luckily you keep me laughing.

It is all part of your delusions. Will the tenderfoot ever recover?

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Kleinman
Member (Idle past 362 days)
Posts: 2142
From: United States
Joined: 10-06-2016


Message 2842 of 2932 (906048)
02-06-2023 2:02 PM
Reply to: Message 2840 by ringo
02-06-2023 1:58 PM


Re: Forewarned.
Kleinman:
He's committing genocide against his own relatives every time he buys some toilet bowl cleaner.
ringo:
Genocide means people.

So that's how you rationalize the mass murder of your relatives.

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ringo
Member (Idle past 439 days)
Posts: 20940
From: frozen wasteland
Joined: 03-23-2005


Message 2843 of 2932 (906050)
02-06-2023 2:07 PM
Reply to: Message 2841 by Kleinman
02-06-2023 2:00 PM


Re: Forewarned.
Kleinman writes:
You don't know whether they agree or disagree based on their lack of public comment.
I said they don't agree, which is correct. You should try learning English.
Whether or not they vocally DISagree is irrelevant. Every scientist on earth doesn't have time to point out that you're wrong.
But if you had anything worthwhile to contribute, they'd be more likely to mention it.

Come all of you cowboys all over this land,
I'll teach you the law of the Ranger's Command:
To hold a six shooter, and never to run
As long as there's bullets in both of your guns.
-- Woody Guthrie

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ringo
Member (Idle past 439 days)
Posts: 20940
From: frozen wasteland
Joined: 03-23-2005


Message 2844 of 2932 (906051)
02-06-2023 2:08 PM
Reply to: Message 2842 by Kleinman
02-06-2023 2:02 PM


Re: Forewarned.
Kleinman writes:
So that's how you rationalize the mass murder of your relatives.
Murder also means people.

Come all of you cowboys all over this land,
I'll teach you the law of the Ranger's Command:
To hold a six shooter, and never to run
As long as there's bullets in both of your guns.
-- Woody Guthrie

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Kleinman
Member (Idle past 362 days)
Posts: 2142
From: United States
Joined: 10-06-2016


Message 2845 of 2932 (906056)
02-06-2023 2:25 PM
Reply to: Message 2843 by ringo
02-06-2023 2:07 PM


Re: Forewarned.
Kleinman:
You don't know whether they agree or disagree based on their lack of public comment.
ringo:
I said they don't agree, which is correct. You should try learning English.

And they don't disagree, tenderfoot. You really need people to agree with your delusions.
Message 2844
Kleinman:
So that's how you rationalize the mass murder of your relatives.
ringo:
Murder also means people.

Tenderfoot's relatives aren't people but some of them have turned into people. What a strange delusion tenderfoot has.

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ringo
Member (Idle past 439 days)
Posts: 20940
From: frozen wasteland
Joined: 03-23-2005


Message 2846 of 2932 (906108)
02-07-2023 10:41 AM
Reply to: Message 2845 by Kleinman
02-06-2023 2:25 PM


Re: Forewarned.
Kleinman writes:
And they don't disagree, tenderfoot.
All I said was that they don't agree. They don't.
Kleinman writes:
You really need people to agree with your delusions.
Got 'em. Just about everybody on this forum agrees with me that you're a crank.
Kleinman writes:
Tenderfoot's relatives aren't people but some of them have turned into people.
No. You're still missing the basic point: relatives are not the same as ancestors.

Come all of you cowboys all over this land,
I'll teach you the law of the Ranger's Command:
To hold a six shooter, and never to run
As long as there's bullets in both of your guns.
-- Woody Guthrie

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Kleinman
Member (Idle past 362 days)
Posts: 2142
From: United States
Joined: 10-06-2016


Message 2847 of 2932 (906124)
02-07-2023 11:29 AM
Reply to: Message 2846 by ringo
02-07-2023 10:41 AM


Re: Forewarned.
Kleinman:
And they don't disagree, tenderfoot.
ringo:
All I said was that they don't agree. They don't.

They won't agree publicly because then the would have to put up with delusional people like you.
Kleinman:
You really need people to agree with your delusions.
ringo:
Got 'em. Just about everybody on this forum agrees with me that you're a crank.

The medical term that describes your group is "folie à plusieurs".
Kleinman:
Tenderfoot's relatives aren't people but some of them have turned into people.
ringo:
No. You're still missing the basic point: relatives are not the same as ancestors.

I found a picture of your relatives.
Why don't you ask them how drug resistance evolves?

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ringo
Member (Idle past 439 days)
Posts: 20940
From: frozen wasteland
Joined: 03-23-2005


Message 2848 of 2932 (906125)
02-07-2023 11:43 AM
Reply to: Message 2847 by Kleinman
02-07-2023 11:29 AM


Re: Forewarned.
Kleinman writes:
They won't agree publicly because then the would have to put up with delusional people like you.
They won't agree publicly because they don't agree.
If they did agree with you, and they posted here, yes, they would have to put up with me because I'd point out where they were wrong just like I point out where you are wrong.
Kleinman writes:
The medical term that describes your group is "folie à plusieurs"
What's the term for diagnosing somebody from a distance with no relevant input?
Kleinman writes:
I found a picture of your relatives.
The issue here is whether or not you can recognize your own grandparents.

Come all of you cowboys all over this land,
I'll teach you the law of the Ranger's Command:
To hold a six shooter, and never to run
As long as there's bullets in both of your guns.
-- Woody Guthrie

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Kleinman
Member (Idle past 362 days)
Posts: 2142
From: United States
Joined: 10-06-2016


Message 2849 of 2932 (906131)
02-07-2023 12:16 PM
Reply to: Message 2848 by ringo
02-07-2023 11:43 AM


Re: Forewarned.
Kleinman:
They won't agree publicly because then the would have to put up with delusional people like you.
ringo:
If they did agree with you, and they posted here, yes, they would have to put up with me because I'd point out where they were wrong just like I point out where you are wrong.

Are you going to tell them how drug resistance evolves and why cancer treatments fail? You could tell them how you are related to the bacteria they used in their experiments.
Kleinman:
The medical term that describes your group is "folie à plusieurs"
ringo:
What's the term for diagnosing somebody from a distance with no relevant input?

It's called "folie à ringo".
Kleinman:
I found a picture of your relatives.
ringo:
The issue here is whether or not you can recognize your own grandparents.

I'm sure they don't look like your relatives. So are you going to tell us how drug resistance evolves and why cancer treatments fail or are you going to continue with your folie à ringo?

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ringo
Member (Idle past 439 days)
Posts: 20940
From: frozen wasteland
Joined: 03-23-2005


Message 2850 of 2932 (906134)
02-07-2023 12:34 PM
Reply to: Message 2849 by Kleinman
02-07-2023 12:16 PM


Re: Forewarned.
Kleinman writes:
Are you going to tell them how drug resistance evolves and why cancer treatments fail? You could tell them how you are related to the bacteria they used in their experiments.
I don't need to tell them what they already know.
Kleinman writes:
ringo writes:
What's the term for diagnosing somebody from a distance with no relevant input?
It's called "folie à ringo".
So you have "folie à ringo"? I suspect you didn't understand the question.
Kleinman writes:
ringo writes:
The issue here is whether or not you can recognize your own grandparents.
I'm sure they don't look like your relatives.
I think they probably do. Have you lost the plot completely?

Come all of you cowboys all over this land,
I'll teach you the law of the Ranger's Command:
To hold a six shooter, and never to run
As long as there's bullets in both of your guns.
-- Woody Guthrie

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