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Author Topic:   Rebuttal To Creationists - "Since We Can't Directly Observe Evolution..."
Theodoric
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Message 729 of 2932 (900101)
10-23-2022 11:24 AM
Reply to: Message 725 by Dredge
10-23-2022 11:13 AM


Re: Kleinman does not think mutations can be passed down to descendants
That is not true. If it were true you would provide evidence. Stop lying. Isn't lying a sin?

What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?


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Theodoric
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Message 732 of 2932 (900104)
10-23-2022 11:27 AM
Reply to: Message 730 by Dredge
10-23-2022 11:24 AM


Re: Kleinman does not think mutations can be passed down to descendants
First of all that is more lies. You have no evidence for them saying that. Second irrelevant.

What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?


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Theodoric
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Message 763 of 2932 (900136)
10-23-2022 3:23 PM
Reply to: Message 738 by Dredge
10-23-2022 12:03 PM


Re: Kleinman does not think mutations can be passed down to descendants
But you have no evidence to back up these assertions do you.

What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?


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Message 786 of 2932 (900186)
10-24-2022 5:49 PM
Reply to: Message 779 by ringo
10-24-2022 1:18 PM


Re: Kleinman does not think mutations can be passed down to descendants
My corollary to this is. And I will trip you.

What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?


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Message 794 of 2932 (900221)
10-25-2022 10:26 AM
Reply to: Message 793 by Kleinman
10-25-2022 9:52 AM


Re: Kleinman does not think mutations can be passed down to descendants
Says the man that believes in magic.

What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?


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Theodoric
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Message 875 of 2932 (900359)
10-26-2022 11:40 PM
Reply to: Message 857 by AZPaul3
10-26-2022 4:39 PM


Re: Kleinman does not think mutations can be passed down to descendants
Yup. He is one of the worst we have had in a long time. He aspires to be a world class crank, but he is reduced to trolling our humble little forum.

What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?


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Theodoric
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Message 882 of 2932 (900375)
10-27-2022 8:29 AM
Reply to: Message 881 by Dredge
10-27-2022 8:19 AM


Re: Kleinman does not think mutations can be passed down to descendants
??? I have no idea what you talking about.
and that is why you should slink away back under your rock. You have a propensity not to know what people are talking about.

What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?


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Theodoric
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Message 1108 of 2932 (900750)
10-31-2022 12:54 PM
Reply to: Message 1107 by Taq
10-31-2022 12:47 PM


Re: Addition Rule Confusion
Maybe he doesn't understand what sexual and asexual mean.

What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?


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Theodoric
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Message 1131 of 2932 (900783)
10-31-2022 3:48 PM
Reply to: Message 1109 by Taq
10-31-2022 1:00 PM


Hmmm
As he is ignoring your post on chromosomes, maybe he is not on the same page.

What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?


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Message 1154 of 2932 (900815)
10-31-2022 8:06 PM
Reply to: Message 1147 by Kleinman
10-31-2022 5:48 PM


Kleinman does not know asexual vs sexual
Kleinman is a cheat and a liar. He changes the title.of a paper to pretend it supports him
You show again that you do not understand asexual vs sexual reproduction. If the paper was addressing both forms.of reproduction in yeast they would not have used the term budding.
So are you ignorant, stupid or a liar.

What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?


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Theodoric
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Message 1157 of 2932 (900821)
10-31-2022 11:33 PM
Reply to: Message 1156 by Tanypteryx
10-31-2022 10:58 PM


Re: Kleinman does not know asexual vs sexual
He is a liar because he added that bit to the title. There is evidence he is a liar.

What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?


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Theodoric
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Message 1161 of 2932 (900825)
11-01-2022 12:10 AM
Reply to: Message 1159 by Tanypteryx
10-31-2022 11:50 PM


Re: Kleinman does not know asexual vs sexual
It always amazes me that these cranks think they are so much smarter than everyone else that they think we are too stupid to confirm evidence. I guess it is projection.

What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?


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Theodoric
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Message 1167 of 2932 (900837)
11-01-2022 8:59 AM
Reply to: Message 1163 by dwise1
11-01-2022 2:07 AM


Re: Kleinman does not know asexual vs sexual
My wife is an MD so I have a little insight into the mindset. There is a significant subset of MDs that are very narcissistic.
Once you are in med school it is very difficult to fail out. The school has so much invested in you and hubris refuses to let them acknowledge they made a mistake enrolling you. There were a few that finished med school in my wife's class that should not have. These are people that have been the smartest person throughout their whole life. Now they finally are with other very smart people. A fair percentage becomes like the asshole MD's we see here. In the end they tend to be very poor to mediocre doc's.

What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?


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Theodoric
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Message 1170 of 2932 (900842)
11-01-2022 9:50 AM
Reply to: Message 1168 by Kleinman
11-01-2022 9:05 AM


Re: Kleinman does not know asexual vs sexual
Are you now denying you altered the title of the paper when you posted this?
Phenotypic and molecular evolution across 10,000 generations in laboratory budding yeast (with asexual reproduction and sexual reproduction) populations
Why would you add to the title unless you were trying to be deceptive?

What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?


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Theodoric
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Message 1178 of 2932 (900855)
11-01-2022 12:04 PM
Reply to: Message 1171 by Kleinman
11-01-2022 10:32 AM


Re: Kleinman does not know asexual vs sexual
Why would you change the title of the paper of you were not being deceitful? If you just made a mistake it means you did not actually read the paper or did not understand it. It seems you just did a quick search of certain words and assumed it supported your erroneous ideas.
This shows that you either don't understand the subject or are a liar. Maybe you are just stupid.
I see you still haven't addressed questions about sexual vs asexual reproduction. It's OK I am sure you do ok in your field.

What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?


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