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Dredge
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Message 651 of 2932 (899993)
10-21-2022 11:15 PM
Reply to: Message 632 by ringo
10-21-2022 12:19 PM


Re: Kleinman does not think mutations can be passed down to descendants
ringo writes:
Therefore, if is POSSIBLE that I could win EVERY draw, a thousand in a row.
You seem to have ignored the part that says,
"Although not truly impossible the probability is low enough so as to not bear mention in a rational, reasonable argument."
Forbidden - Stack Exchange.
In other words, since the probabilty of the same person winning the lottery 1000 times in a row is much much less than 10^-50 (cf. 2.414×10^-8000)
, "the probability is low enough so as to not bear mention in a rational, reasonable argument."
But if you want to push an irrational, unreasonable argument, be my guest ... I know La La Land has a special place in your heart.

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Dredge
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Message 652 of 2932 (899994)
10-21-2022 11:18 PM
Reply to: Message 642 by dwise1
10-21-2022 3:01 PM


Re: Kleinman does not think mutations can be passed down to descendants
Okay, thanx for the tip.

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Dredge
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Message 658 of 2932 (900001)
10-22-2022 1:20 AM
Reply to: Message 657 by dwise1
10-22-2022 12:57 AM


Re: Not Just Math, Kleinman Doesn't Know Anything
dwise1 writes:
So if God performed abiogenesis through natural processes, what then?
Moot point. I'll address your question when you can demonstrate that abiogenesis was the result of natural processes ... which will never happen. Not in a million years will your dumb god of science be able to demonstrate abiogenesis.

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Dredge
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Message 661 of 2932 (900006)
10-22-2022 5:00 AM
Reply to: Message 657 by dwise1
10-22-2022 12:57 AM


Re: Not Just Math, Kleinman Doesn't Know Anything
dwise1 writes:
An actual creationist would believe that The Creator created The Creation as it is and as it works.
Thus, according to dwise1 logic, an actual Christian would believe that Jesus raised Lazarus from the dead by using natural processes.
As Mr. Spock used to say, "Fascinating ... but illogical."
Since The Creator created those very physical processes producing life from non-life, then abiogenesis would actually serve as witness for The Creator.
An atheist preaching about God's creation ... you're a fake atheist!!
But willfully stupid fake creationists like you insist that abiogenesis through natural processes disprove God.
Really? I didn't know that.
Btw, I'm not a "willfully" stupid creationist ... I was born stupid.
Learn the difference between single-step selection and cumulative selection -- refer to my pages starting at MONKEY for a more complete explanation
Sorry, but I've better things to do than read atheist fairy tales about how life began.
which I have absolutely no doubt that you are too afraid of to read
Yep, I would find your fairy tales terrifying.
I really do wish, though, that you fucking willfully stupid creationists will one day finally pull your collective heads out and wake up.
Thank you for your kind wishes.

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Dredge
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Message 662 of 2932 (900007)
10-22-2022 6:12 AM
Reply to: Message 659 by dwise1
10-22-2022 2:05 AM


Re: Kleinman does not think mutations can be passed down to descendants
dwise1 writes:
So then you are defining "the mathematics of God" as complete and utter bullshit which is not only utterly false but also completely useless.
Well of course you think the mathematics of God is "complete and utter bullshit ... utterly false ... completely useless" - you're an atheist.
You mock what you don't understand and what God has hidden from you.
God Herself
Please keep your feminist crap to yourself.
Feminism is demonic poison.
If you know nothing about what you are fighting against, then how could you ever possibly hope to fight against it?
That makes you nothing more than the most incredibly stupid fucking idiot of all time.
Just roll over and let your enemy disembowel you right on the spot. And rightfully so!
You have absolutely no desire to oppose any opponent! You just want to be killed off!
Pathetic!
I can't believe this much entertainment is free!

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Dredge
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Message 670 of 2932 (900022)
10-22-2022 10:01 AM
Reply to: Message 663 by vimesey
10-22-2022 7:58 AM


Re: Kleinman does not think mutations can be passed down to descendants
Hilarious.

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Dredge
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Message 672 of 2932 (900025)
10-22-2022 10:27 AM
Reply to: Message 665 by vimesey
10-22-2022 8:43 AM


Re: Kleinman does not think mutations can be passed down to descendants
 
vimesey writes:
in Australia, misogyny is one of the main national pastimes, as I understand it.
Australia’s above-average sexism highlighted in global report
That's pretty funny. Are you so clueless as to believe everything a bunch of mad feminists tell you? (Actually "mad feminists" is a tautology - all feminists are mad.)
Speaking of misogyny, feminism hates women so much that it wants to turn women into something they're not. Is there anything more unnatural, insane and satanic than feminism?
"The feminists hate me, don’t they? And I don’t blame them. For I hate feminism. It is poison."
Margaret Thatcher, former Prime Minster of the United Kingdom
Margaret Thatcher: The Glass-Ceiling Shatterer Who Thought Feminism Was 'Poison' - Ms. Magazine

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Dredge
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Message 686 of 2932 (900048)
10-22-2022 3:12 PM
Reply to: Message 680 by ringo
10-22-2022 12:16 PM


Re: Kleinman does not think mutations can be passed down to descendants
ringo writes:
So the "mathematics of God" is totally unscientific.
The supernatural is by definition, unscientific.
The mathematics of God is as unscientific as abiogenesis.
So whenever you mention the "mathematics of God" we can disregard it.
You have no choice but to disregard it ... atheists cannot understand or even see the mathematics of God.

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Dredge
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Message 687 of 2932 (900049)
10-22-2022 3:26 PM
Reply to: Message 683 by ringo
10-22-2022 12:37 PM


Re: Kleinman does not think mutations can be passed down to descendants
ringo writes:
And Aztecs might believe in the mathematics of Quetzalcoatl.
The Aztecs perished because their civilisation was based on superstition and false gods, all orchestrated by demons.
Along came the true God's missionaries and colonizers to put an end to that pagan abomination.

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Dredge
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Posts: 2850
From: Australia
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Message 692 of 2932 (900059)
10-22-2022 9:52 PM
Reply to: Message 688 by Theodoric
10-22-2022 6:56 PM


Re: Kleinman does not think mutations can be passed down to descendants
Theodoric writes:
Oh yeah thats right you guys think genocide and child rape is a good thing as long as it is done for the glory of your deity.
May you rot in the hell you believe in.
I feel a bit guilty getting this entertained free of charge.

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Dredge
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Message 693 of 2932 (900060)
10-22-2022 10:20 PM
Reply to: Message 689 by AZPaul3
10-22-2022 8:02 PM


Re: Kleinman does not think mutations can be passed down to descendants
AZPaul3 writes:
They also brought disease, war, needless bloodshed. In the 200 years after Pizarro your religion and it's faithful killed about 60% of the indigenous population on the whole continent.
A culture that practised human sacrifice (which included children and the skinning of victims) on a regular basis deserved to be destroyed ... or do you think a religion that practises such abominations is the preferred option?
What "needless bloodshed" are you referring to?
Your god is evil.
China gave the world Covid and Africa gave the world HIV, killing millions ... so according to your logic, those countries must be "evil" too.

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Dredge
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Posts: 2850
From: Australia
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Message 694 of 2932 (900061)
10-22-2022 10:25 PM
Reply to: Message 690 by Theodoric
10-22-2022 8:37 PM


Re: Kleinman does not think mutations can be passed down to descendants
Theodoric writes:
Actually the figure is probably in excess of 90%.
If you're going to pull numbers out of the sky, why just 90%? What's wrong with 99.9%?

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Dredge
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Message 697 of 2932 (900064)
10-22-2022 10:42 PM
Reply to: Message 681 by ringo
10-22-2022 12:25 PM


Re: Kleinman does not think mutations can be passed down to descendants
[qs=Dredge]In other words, since the probabilty of the same person winning the lottery 1000 times in a row is much much less than 10^-50 (cf. 2.414×10^-8000)
ringo writes:
It isn't. It's the same in every draw
Are you saying the probability of someone winning the lottery once is the same as that same person winning the lottery 1000 times in a row?
Fascinating.

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Dredge
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Posts: 2850
From: Australia
Joined: 09-06-2016


Message 698 of 2932 (900065)
10-22-2022 10:54 PM
Reply to: Message 657 by dwise1
10-22-2022 12:57 AM


Re: Not Just Math, Kleinman Doesn't Know Anything
dwise1 writes:
So if God performed abiogenesis through natural processes, what then?
Please be advised that your concept of God using "natural processes" to produce life is an oxymoron -
if God performed abiogenesis through natural processes,
there would be nothing "natural" about it.
And how would you distinguish between the "natural" and supernatural parts of that abiogenesis?
If God performed abiogenesis through natural processes, how would that process be different to nature alone performing abiogenesis?

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Dredge
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Message 702 of 2932 (900069)
10-22-2022 11:05 PM
Reply to: Message 696 by Tanypteryx
10-22-2022 10:35 PM


Re: Kleinman does not think mutations can be passed down to descendants
Tanypteryx writes:
Pink Floyd is my favorite.
I thought The Osmonds would have been your favourite ... well I got that wrong.

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