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candle2
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Message 69 of 103 (898649)
09-27-2022 1:47 PM
Reply to: Message 68 by ringo
09-27-2022 11:50 AM


Re: Sez Who?
I laid out what I believe that Genesis is describing in the
creation week, and I believe my position.
You cannot disprove by science, nor by any other means,
that my understanding of creation week did not happen
in the way that I described.
It is a rather simple thing to discount someone who says
that the sun was created on both the first and fourth days
of creation. But there is no way to prove that the Genesis
account was not a renewal.
I wonder if you have enough faith in evolution to tell us
how earth was created. How life came from non-life.
I was limited to the Bible for my explanation. You,
however, are free to rely on anything and anyone that
you see fit.
You like to attack the beliefs of others. I want to see you
defend yours, assuming that you have the courage to
even post them.

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candle2
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Message 73 of 103 (898660)
09-27-2022 3:55 PM
Reply to: Message 72 by AZPaul3
09-27-2022 3:14 PM


Re: Sez Who?
AZPaul you cannot disprove my understanding
of creation week. Nor can you prove that it is
just a fantasy.
You are free to believe that if you choose to do so,
but it will amount to nothing more than an opinion.
It means nothing.
There are many people who believe in cosmic,
planetary, etc... evolution.
Those who believe in evolution must explain the
entire continuum from beginning until the very
present age.
Actually, I couldn't care less where one begins on
the continuum; they still have their work cut out
for them.
I fully realize the situation that evolutionists and
atheists are in.
I just sit back and smile.

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candle2
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Message 82 of 103 (898710)
09-28-2022 12:09 PM
Reply to: Message 75 by Phat
09-27-2022 4:00 PM


Re: Sez Who?
Phat, I think the concept of evolution can be defined as
change over a period of time. But, the change must be
by natural processes.
Some believe that cosmic; planetary; stellar; chemical;
and, abiogenesis came to be by a natural process.
Some believe that the universe came to be by intelligent
design, but that life evolved, without supernatural
involvement.
My understanding of the evolutionary process is that
change must be by a natural process.
Whenever an evolutionist does not want to, nor cannot,
answer a specific question they reply "you just don't
understand what evolution is."

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candle2
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Message 84 of 103 (898715)
09-28-2022 12:20 PM
Reply to: Message 80 by ringo
09-27-2022 10:17 PM


Re: Sez Who?
Ringo, you are still not giving any answers to
questions. You must be a politican. They can talk
all day without saying anything.

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candle2
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Message 89 of 103 (898765)
09-29-2022 4:04 PM
Reply to: Message 80 by ringo
09-27-2022 10:17 PM


Re: Sez Who?
Ringo, it is indeed possible to prove/disprove by a
scientific method.
We have crystal clear proof the Earth's moon rotates.
Just by observing it for centuries we had assumed that
since the same side of the moon always faced us that
it did not.
By the same method we have proved that the moon
revolves around the earth; that the earth revolves around
the sun; and, that our solar system revolves around the
center of the MW Galaxy.
Every science experiment conducted in biology proves
that life comes from previously existing life of its own
kind.
And, you are right in that you are totally unable to express
your own paradigm of life. I doubt that you even know
what it is.

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candle2
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Message 92 of 103 (898795)
09-30-2022 9:50 AM
Reply to: Message 90 by ringo
09-29-2022 10:27 PM


Re: Sez Who?
Ringo, we know that the moon rotates. It is a proven
fact.
There isn't simply evidence that the moon rotates, there
is proof that the moon rotates. At least there is proof to
those of us use who employ operational/empirical
scientific techniques.
Science is a tool by which we investigate the universe
around us. Science doesn't take side; scientists do.
What I mean by your paradigm is that you are totally lost
concerning how life began, and about how millions of
unique organisms came to be.
You should stop trying to convince others that they are
wrong when you are unable to even know what you,
yourself, believes.
You remind me of someone who has never had kids
trying to tell those of us with kids how to raise them.
There is nothing to suggest that complex chemicals
created life. In fact, no one (outside of God) can say
how all the complex chemicals were created.
Magical chemicals.

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Message 93 of 103 (898796)
09-30-2022 9:58 AM
Reply to: Message 91 by dwise1
09-29-2022 11:24 PM


Re: Sez Who?
Dwise 1, all you can say with any degree of certainty is
that you know nothing about (God) what you call a spook.
You simply do not know what those who have a
relationship with God know.

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candle2
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Message 98 of 103 (898845)
10-01-2022 10:21 AM
Reply to: Message 95 by ringo
09-30-2022 12:05 PM


Re: Sez Who?
Ringo, take some chemicals and create life.
Never has it been shown that chemicals can create life.
Yet, evolutionists cling to this ridiculous assertion.
And, yes men applying the scientific techniques have
proved beyond a shadow of a doubt that the moon
rotates. It is a fact.
Centuries of observations have clearly shown that life
comes from previous life of the same kind.
You might not like to hear this, but it is what it is.

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