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xongsmith
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Message 16 of 42 (893125)
03-27-2022 6:04 PM
Reply to: Message 11 by Percy
03-27-2022 9:33 AM


Re: Warren Zevon's Mutineer
Percy writes:
Never heard of Warren Zevon. That's really him singing in the YouTube video? Sounds like Bob Dylan to me, so I would have assumed anything I heard on the radio by him was Dylan.

Percy, I posted youtube videos of both Warren singing it and Bob Dylan singing it. Hope you didn't get confused.

Edited by xongsmith, : No reason given.


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Omnivorous
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Message 17 of 42 (893482)
04-14-2022 9:36 PM
Reply to: Message 10 by Theodoric
03-26-2022 4:22 PM


Re: Warren
Hey Theo, Warren is a touchstone for me. I think Ronstadt's cover of Poor Poor Pitiful Me may be his most radio recognizable song. I prefer his original version which is darker and funnier.

As you note, The Wind, his last album, was recorded after his terminal mesothelioma diagnosis. His previous two albums sound like foreshadowing: My Ride's Here and Life'll Kill Ya (which included the title track and the poignant Dont Let Us Get Sick). But he partied with Hunter S Thompson beyond mortal bounds (yay Dionysus! Mad honey!), so what sounds premonitory was also a good guess. Still, it's not an irony that his terminal illness stemmed from youthful workplace exposure rather than a lifetime of too much of everything the modern pharmucopia has to offer, just a lime twist.

Warren was as uneven as he was high and low, smart and doomed, and unapologetic through it all. I'd urge anyone familiar only with his early rollicking, satirical songs to listen to The Wind. He knew he had less than a year to live. It's existential-angsty (Rub Me Raw) and funny (My Dirty Life and Times). There's nothing for creative focus like being hanged in the morning.

He was my kinda rocker.


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-Terence


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Message 18 of 42 (893483)
04-14-2022 9:44 PM
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04-14-2022 9:36 PM


Re: Warren
Welcome home. Pull up a stump and set a spell.

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Message 19 of 42 (893484)
04-14-2022 9:51 PM
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04-14-2022 9:44 PM


Re: Warren
Plan to, jar, thank you. It's good to be here.

"If you can keep your head while those around you are losing theirs, you can collect a lot of heads."

Homo sum, humani nihil a me alienum puto.
-Terence


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Message 20 of 42 (893485)
04-14-2022 10:05 PM
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04-14-2022 9:51 PM


Re: Warren
What great truths have you discovered during your hiatus? Any significant happenings? Did you, maybe, have more fun than the rest of us? I hope so.

So welcome back.


Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!

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Message 21 of 42 (893486)
04-14-2022 10:31 PM
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04-14-2022 9:51 PM


Re: Warren
Welcome back!

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python

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Message 22 of 42 (893511)
04-15-2022 1:14 PM
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04-14-2022 9:36 PM


Re: Warren
Warren is the same for me.
I am to the age(60 this year) in which a lot of the previous generation are passing on. My parents are now deceased and of my closest friends my age only a couple parents are still alive. My aunts and uncles are dwindling also. When someone I know passes away I always post Keep Me In Your Heart For a While from The Wind. This song seems to have found the right sense of the feeling of losing a loved one.

Oh yeah, welcome back. I just returned a few months ago. Though the place has dwindled I am very happy I returned.


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"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?


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Message 23 of 42 (893707)
04-18-2022 5:40 PM
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04-14-2022 10:05 PM


Re: Warren
No great truths to report. I survived a stroke, and I alone have returned to tell you we're all going to die, and that's okay. I celebrated my 70th birthday dancing around a two story bonfire with my rowdy, Trump-loving friends.

I remarried my ex (24 yrs first round, 8 years of divorce, 2+ years of the second round, so far).

I learned I want all the kittens, but the house is full with 4 grown cats. I want a puppy and a horse.

I discovered that even I had underestimated the stupidity of the American people; fortunately, I had no money riding on my estimate.

I stayed off the web, other than to use it as an information/communication device. I'm typing this on my Android phone, having had no computer set up for years now, though one is coming soon.

I suspect there are no grand truths. To stand in the presence of something true, one must either draw a very small circle or play with a kitten.

Thanks much for the welcome. I'm less sure of just about everything now, but once I get my hands on a keyboard, some opinions may arise.


"If you can keep your head while those around you are losing theirs, you can collect a lot of heads."

Homo sum, humani nihil a me alienum puto.
-Terence


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Omnivorous
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Message 24 of 42 (893708)
04-18-2022 5:51 PM
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04-14-2022 10:31 PM


Re: Warren
Thank you! I've been reminded of your flying gems and you often along the streams in my woods. I've been bringing road kill to a pair of ravens nesting nearby; their curiosity brings them ever closer. They've taken to doing a turn or two above my cabin each day, croaking what could be hello friend but is probably that squirrel tartare needs salt.

"If you can keep your head while those around you are losing theirs, you can collect a lot of heads."

Homo sum, humani nihil a me alienum puto.
-Terence


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Message 25 of 42 (893710)
04-18-2022 6:07 PM
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04-15-2022 1:14 PM


Re: Warren
I'm glad you also returned, Theo. Welcome back!

A question I often asked when I was younger: Why me? Then, of course, it was a misery.

Now I've buried so many, I feel like the last man standing, asking in bemusement, Why me?

Many years ago, an army surgeon told me all you hillbillies are hard to kill. Maybe that's it.

The Wind was a "breakup album" for us while we processed our divorce. Keep Me ... could move us both to tears.

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jar
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Message 26 of 42 (893713)
04-18-2022 7:09 PM
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04-18-2022 5:40 PM


Re: Warren
survivor writes:

I suspect there are no grand truths. To stand in the presence of something true, one must either draw a very small circle or play with a kitten.

And the truth is that it is totally ignoring you beyond being a fun thing to climb.

Unless it's feeding time and then you are late.


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Omnivorous
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Message 27 of 42 (893717)
04-18-2022 8:43 PM
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04-18-2022 7:09 PM


Re: Warren
Yes, cat feedings are always late -- nature of the beast.

But if you turn down the heat, they will cuddle.

Nor'easter blowing in now, looking for 6-12" here in the high Mohawk Valley/Adirondack foothills. It could be a 4 cat night.


"If you can keep your head while those around you are losing theirs, you can collect a lot of heads."

Homo sum, humani nihil a me alienum puto.
-Terence


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Message 28 of 42 (893737)
04-19-2022 12:01 PM
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04-18-2022 6:07 PM


Re: Warren
Omnivorous writes:

Now I've buried so many, I feel like the last man standing, asking in bemusement, Why me?


Just a few years ago, I was telling my cousins that we're the "older generation" now. In the past year, I've buried three aunts, one uncle and one cousin. Only one uncle left - great guy, looks just like Alice Cooper - and he doesn't expect to last the summer. Forty-some cousins left, only one older than me. I tell people I'd rather have them come to my funeral than have to go to theirs.

"I call that bold talk for a one-eyed fat man!"
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Message 29 of 42 (893752)
04-19-2022 2:21 PM
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Re: funerals
Ringo writes:
I tell people I'd rather have them come to my funeral than have to go to theirs.

Didn't Yogi Berra once say something like

"You better go to their funerals or they won't go to yours."?

Ah, the goo-goo-Googlyplex tells me it was

"Always go to other people's funerals, otherwise they won't come to yours."


"I'm the Grim Reaper now, Mitch. Step aside."
Death to #TzarVladimirtheCondemned!
Enjoy every sandwich!

- xongsmith, 5.7dawkins scale


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ringo
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Message 30 of 42 (893809)
04-20-2022 3:46 PM
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Re: funerals
xongsmith writes:

"Always go to other people's funerals, otherwise they won't come to yours."


I'd like to do what Tom Sawyer did and go to my own funeral. I've been to funerals where the deceased seemed much nicer than they were when they were alive. I wonder how perfect I'll be at my funeral.

"I call that bold talk for a one-eyed fat man!"
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