The Light Time Problem

I see your fiction and raise you to delusion.Edited by AZPaul3, : No reason given.

The problem you have with these statements, candle2, is that I have evidence. Entire libraries full. Museums, universities and scholarly works beyond reproach. Real science stuff. Lots of it.While you, on the other hand, have nothing but the fantasies of 4000 year old goat herders. And your different cults have different fantasies. And they go to war with each other over who's got the bigger dick. And, apparently, you all have a deep need to make life as difficult for as many humans as possible.Yes, candle2, you are natural chemistry in constant motion over trillions of energy gradients. You are the evolved progeny of warm goo that oozed around a sea vent. You are the unintended random outcome of blind chemistry gone ... natural. You are an animal of the hominid family that includes monkeys. You're a monkey, candle2.You can deny it all you want but that won't change the absolute empirical fact that you are a monkey.Edited by AZPaul3, : What?

"the most dishonest professionals of all disciplines" are the priests and believers in the following:Bahá’í
Buddhism
Christianity
Confucianism
Druze
Gnosticism
Hinduism
Islam
Jainism
Judaism
Rastafarianism
Shinto
Sikhism
Zoroastrianismand the 10s of thousands of blood cults that spring from each.

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It makes much more sense to believe that God created the sun on the first day and that he created it again on the fourth day.

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Yeah, that's about as moronic as you can get.

Oh the frustration! I hope it felt good because it sure looked good!Edited by AZPaul3, : No reason given.

And you know this how? Do you have a degree in geology and chemistry? Of course you would. Everything sings the glory of god to a creationist. Except you can’t show god. You fail. Just boggles your little creationist mind doesn’t it? Except you can’t show god while we can show evolution. Lots of it. Lots of hard evidence and proof. Lots of evolved organisms, bugs, crocoducks, even creationists. (Well, except for crocoducks. Those are a creationist's wet dream, and like your god, they don't exist and never have.)While you have nothing as evidence. Nothing to support your fantasies. Nothing except crocoduck tears. It is proven fact. Evolution happened, is happening and will continue to happen. The rest of the world know this. What is wrong with creationists minds that reality doesn’t exist? Did you ever hear about a talking snake? And in the story the snake is the only honest one of the bunch. Edited by AZPaul3, : No reason given.

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I can prove evolution to you but it will take some effort on your part. This forum is not appropriate for the amount of information required.First you will have to qualify, apply and get accepted at a nearby university. Not a church school but a nationally accredited secular one, like University of Iowa or Stanford, etc. Closest one to you should do. Evolution is not a glass-shattered fragmented set of cults like religion. The information will be all the same school to school. Science is like that. Then you need to enroll in biology classes, actually attend and let them show you all the evolution proof for, let’s say, 2 semesters.You should learn two things. You will learn the facts and the reality of evolution, and you will learn that proof is for math, not science. There is just evidence. Mountains of overwhelmingly convincing hold in your hands hard physical evidence. Science.Contrast that with religionists. Each one that comes in here has a different story to tell. No one has ANY evidence whatsoever that their god exists. None. And what's worse is the idiots go off and make war over the differences. Fools.Second, you need to ditch the church stuff. I know religion is your world right now and learning will lose you some friends. You can make new ones attending atheist gatherings for your Sunday-go-the-meeting fix. This is vital. The church doesn’t want you to learn. Knowledge is abhorrent to religion and it will make every effort and put up whatever roadblocks they can find to keep you from the truth. The bible being one of the biggest things they’ll throw at you. Avoid that thing. It’s toxic to the human mind.I know, I know, you ARE the church in your community. It’s like losing your flock. But if you really want to see the deep evidence, the deep truth of biological reality, the power of evolution, then this recipe will do that for you. I guarantee it.Edited by AZPaul3, : No reason given.

Why cure half a disease?

Religion is a disease.

Apocryphal bullshit. I don't believe you.

Your creator of everything is non-existent. It is a fiction perpetrated by the priests to control the masses and enrich their coffers and their power. Your religion is a scam.Those who believe are mentally deficient as you confuse your fantasies for reality. You cannot discern the difference. That is a cognitive fault.Your morality is read to you from a 3000 year old book that demands death for every perceived infraction and is an evil aberration to all humanity.You are a puppet taught not to think but to obey. You are a slave to the church. You have no capacity for independent thought or action.You are an automaton programmed to blindly follow the dictates of your priests who interpret your scriptures in their own evil image.Your god is a sham. Your priests are charlatans and you have wasted your precious life in service to a monster.There will be no reward for you in heaven. There is no heaven. When you die you will pass into oblivion just as all life must.Edited by AZPaul3, : No reason given.

You have no influence here. Your stories are apocryphal. They have no relevance to the human condition. Go preach your evil slop to the rocks.

We know reality doesn't matter to you. Facts mean nothing to you. You're allowed your stupidity. But keep your evil to yourself.Edited by AZPaul3, : No reason given.

I don't think so. PE explains some population movements with speciation we see in the record over evolutionary time. If you are crazily thinking (creationly thinking) that PE replaces evolution, then, as usual, you would be wrong. The evolution of those populations between their movements is the usual, boring process that characterizes most of genetic evolution. That's your proof then. We have them. Have you counted how many fossils we have with every school, museum, collector?And another additional, though I’m highly skeptical of it happening, human evolution is not done. If we survive these next 300,000 years (highly doubtful) then Homo sapiens will have been replaced by Homo something else. That makes you a transitional species. You want to see a real living transitional fossil? Look in the mirror.Edited by AZPaul3, : No reason given.

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Are you absolutely sure? You can say that. But can you get him to say that? That is the problem.I wonder if candle2 even reads posts.Continue to tilt at this windmill, Sr. Quixote. Others are watching and may learn.