Whisky Tango Foxtrot, Mike? (What the f**k, man?)
You claim to be replying to one of my messages from
more than two years ago (ie,
Message 211 -- 07-Mar-2022), yet nothing you write addresses that message. IOW, you are not actually replying to that message in any way. Instead, you quote from and respond to my message
Message 492 (19-Nov-2024) over in the
Israel Declares War For The First Time Since 1973. topic
without any attempt to identify what you are replying to. Almost as if you want to hide something. As if you don't want anyone to be able to go back to the original message and see what it really says and in what context.
Sorry if I appear to be overreacting, but I had been watching a critique video about a
professional creationist video (Calvin Smith of AIG Canada) whose title claims "I Studied Evolution IN-DEPTH" (like almost every creationist claims) and yet he, like all other creationists, displays abject ignorance of evolution and instead rails against strawmen that have little if anything to do with evolution. Plus they lie incessantly and are highly dishonest. So when you display similar behavior, or at least appear to, I cannot react very kindly.
So, what are you trying to pull?
I can't speak for all evangelicals by any means but I will say that *they* are in no hurry for the good times to be over for good. (Merle Haggard song) Christians in America want prosperity like anyone else and they want peace. What they don't want is diversity amongst religions nations or ideologies. They want unity.
In our minds,(Conservative believers) unity is only achievable through Jesus Christ. This is the stumbling block that prevents unity...now globally.
Rank-and-file members, maybe. But their movements embrace the End Times. Pat Robertson even had a plan to set up loudspeakers in Jerusalem and throughout the world to broadcast his proselytizing efforts with the goal of fulfilling one of the trigger points for the End Times, that everybody must have heard the Word and given the chance to be saved; when that last person declines Salvation
then is when the bad times roll.
Your assessment reminded me of the part in Episode 1 of the BBC TV production of
The_Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy (1981, available on Hulu last I looked) where the earth is destroyed by the Vogon Destructor Fleet to make way for a hyperspatial bypass (painted bulldozer yellow just like the bulldozer sent to destroy Arthur Dent's home to make way for a bypass, British for a highway). When the destructor fleet appears in the sky, the camera trolleys past a line of pedestrians looking up at it, ending with a street preacher wearing a sandwich sign saying "THE END IS NIGH!". Then when the destructor fleet commander announces their imminent destruction we have the same trolley shot where everybody is shouting angrily at the fleet, stopping at the empty sandwich sign because that street preacher had left it behind when he ran away in terror. Sorry, I couldn't find a clip of that on YouTube.
So why do Evangelicals support Israel? It's certainly not because they love the Jews so much, because they despise the Jews. Rather, it's only because the restoration of the State of Israel is key their End Time prophesies. It's not because of pilgrimages to visit the sites described in the Bible, because that would happen even without Israel
as it had for centuries past (eg, Mark Twain's book,
The Innocents Abroad, or The New Pilgrim's Progress: Being Some Account of the Steamship "Quaker City's" Pleasure Excursion to Europe and the Holy Land; with Descriptions of Countries, Nations, Incidents, and Adventures, as They Appeared to the Author). Rather the primary importance of Israel to Evangelicals is its role in the End Times. Indeed, along with the usual pilgrimage stops they make sure to visit the plain of
Armageddon where they revel in its prophesized role.
Getting a little short on time now.
We could also discuss the difference between premillennialism and postmillennialism and how that traditionally affected the hyper-religious such that the Baptists, who believed that the Thousand Year Rule would come after Jesus returned, whereas the
Christian Reconstructionists believed that Jesus would return
after they had established that Thousand Year Rule. As a result, Baptists avoided political involvement, but that changed c. 1980 when they embraced the Christian Reconstructionist political agenda of turning America into an Old Testament theocracy and gave rise to what is now known as
Christian Nationalism. Part of the Baptist attitude included not caring about conservation, etc, because they saw the world as falling apart anyway
in keeping with their End Times mentality ("Why would you bother to polish the brass on a sinking ship?").
Remember, I spent some time with those people. They were obsessed with two things: 1) demons, and 2) the End Times. They may have become less virulent, at least outwardly, but that mania is still there.
dwise1:
In order to act professionally in the job Mike Huckabee is being put up for, an evangelical Christian would need to put aside his personal evangelical Christian agenda of sabotaging peace in the Middle East and instead work towards peace.
In the case of the Middle East, there has so far never been a workable consensus in a religious context. Iran sponsors terror in the hopes of taking the thorn out of their side. (Israel). Israel wants peace through strength and in eliminating all of their enemies. Their enemies are of course the people who see them as the thorn.
Has nothing to do with what I had written. Try reading it again.
dwise1:
How many evangelical Christians would have the ability to act professionally in that job? Not many.
You speak of professionalism in the military, but what about the alleged statements of Admiral Rob Bauer? Putin took them to mean that NATO was turning offensive rather than defensive.
What the fuck are you talking about? Who the fuck is ADM Rob Bauer (is that RADM, VADM, or ADM, what is/was his command, etc?)
and what is he supposed to have said and within what context?
And why are you withholding that extremely pertinent information from us? There's that stench of dishonesty coming from you again.
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