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Dredge
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Message 1336 of 1429 (903932)
12-19-2022 1:30 AM
Reply to: Message 1210 by ringo
12-06-2022 11:45 AM


Re: UCD evidence
Dredge writes:
it's about a practical use in medical science or biology for the theory of UCD.
ringoat writes:
I gave you that way, way, way, way back: Cow and pig insulin. It wasn't a creationist who thought of that. Somebody who knew about UCD said, "Hmm... maybe we can get a donations from our cousins the cows and pigs."
Your quaint story is a fine example of Darwinoid delusion and fake history.
Please cite a scientific paper that says the use of cow and pig insulin for humans would not have been possible without the theory of UCD.
Good luck with that ... LOL!!

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Dredge
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Message 1337 of 1429 (903933)
12-19-2022 1:32 AM
Reply to: Message 1211 by ringo
12-06-2022 11:49 AM


Re: UCD evidence
ringoat writes:
You really should never have admitted to being so stupid.
Honesty is the best policy.

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xongsmith
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Message 1338 of 1429 (903934)
12-19-2022 2:34 AM
Reply to: Message 1336 by Dredge
12-19-2022 1:30 AM


Re: UCD evidence
Dredgings:
Please cite a scientific paper that says the use of cow and pig insulin for humans would not have been possible without the theory of UCD.
None needed here. It's common sense.
You're up in this Tree of Life on one branch and you think maybe some of these
other branches near you can provide some help. You right now think that it's
a good thing all of the Tree is supported by the main trunk at the bottom.

"I'm the Grim Reaper now, Mitch. Step aside."
Death to #TzarVladimirtheCondemned!
Enjoy every sandwich!

- xongsmith, 5.7dawkins scale


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Dredge
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Message 1339 of 1429 (903935)
12-19-2022 6:03 AM
Reply to: Message 1335 by xongsmith
12-19-2022 12:02 AM


Re: UCD evidence
wrongsmith writes:
YOU ARE SO BUSTED!
You are so hallucinating.
Seek help ... you may have an undiagnosed medical condition that is affecting your mental health.

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Dredge
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Message 1340 of 1429 (903936)
12-19-2022 6:21 AM
Reply to: Message 1338 by xongsmith
12-19-2022 2:34 AM


Re: UCD evidence
Dredge writes:
Please cite a scientific paper that says the use of cow and pig insulin for humans would not have been possible without the theory of UCD.
wrongsmith writes:
None needed here. It's common sense.
Your opinion per se is as meaningless as saying, "No need to cite a scientific paper that says the moon is made of cheese. It's common sense."

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Theodoric
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Message 1341 of 1429 (903937)
12-19-2022 9:17 AM
Reply to: Message 1334 by Dredge
12-18-2022 10:40 PM


Re: UCD evidence
Trolling in this instance has nothing to do with fishing. It is the act of being a troll. But this little aside is just more evidence that you are a troll.
quote:
In slang, a troll is a person who posts or makes inflammatory, insincere, digressive,[1] extraneous, or off-topic messages online (such as in social media, a newsgroup, a forum, a chat room, a online video game), or in real life, with the intent of provoking others into displaying emotional responses,[2] or manipulating others' perception. The behavior is typically for the troll's amusement, or to achieve a specific result such as disrupting a rival's online activities or purposefully causing confusion or harm to other users online.[3]
Troll - Wikipedia(slang)

What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?


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Theodoric
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Message 1342 of 1429 (903938)
12-19-2022 9:18 AM
Reply to: Message 1340 by Dredge
12-19-2022 6:21 AM


Re: UCD evidence
You defeat your own argument. Common sense does not say the moon is made of cheese.

What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?


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ringo
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Message 1343 of 1429 (903945)
12-19-2022 11:21 AM
Reply to: Message 1315 by Dredge
12-17-2022 12:48 PM


Re: UCD evidence
Dredge writes:
Research based on the theory of UCD that results in no practical benefit means the theory of UCD is actually useful?
That's what I said.
I gave an example in the message you quoted: We tried prayer and got nothing but negative results, so we learned not to waste any more time on it.
Dredge writes:
A teaspoon is useful for playing golf bcoz we tried it and got only negative results?
Certainly. Knowing that a teaspoon is not useful in golf is useful knowledge.
By trying a teaspoon in golf, we learned not to waste any more time on it. If we all had your disdain for negative results, every golfer would be carrying a bag ful of teasppons.

Come all of you cowboys all over this land,
I'll teach you the law of the Ranger's Command:
To hold a six shooter, and never to run
As long as there's bullets in both of your guns.
-- Woody Guthrie

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ringo
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Message 1344 of 1429 (903946)
12-19-2022 11:28 AM
Reply to: Message 1318 by dwise1
12-17-2022 1:12 PM


Re: UCD evidence
dwise1 writes:
... the local news and newspapers rarely covered more than local news, farm news...
A visitor to Saskatchewan once marveled that there are farm-chemical ads on TV in prime time.
dwise1 writes:
... and the weather....
The reason Canadians are so friendly is because we feel obligated to tell everybody we meet how cold it is.

Come all of you cowboys all over this land,
I'll teach you the law of the Ranger's Command:
To hold a six shooter, and never to run
As long as there's bullets in both of your guns.
-- Woody Guthrie

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ringo
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Message 1345 of 1429 (903949)
12-19-2022 11:37 AM
Reply to: Message 1324 by Phat
12-18-2022 10:08 AM


Re: Stale Communion and amusing musings
Phat writes:
The issue is Dredge's intelligence. Surely he is an independent thinker, one would assume.
One - i.e. you - would be wrong. Dredge is a non-thinker. He even admits to being an idiot.
Phat writes:
I start out by assuming that anyone in this forum who stays around more than a month has basic intelligence.
Another wrong assumption. Intelligence can be defined in simplest terms as the ability to learn. Creationists do not have that.
Phat writes:
To be fair, I am still reading back through the topic, however.
Dredge said in Message 111, "my IQ is less than 10".

Come all of you cowboys all over this land,
I'll teach you the law of the Ranger's Command:
To hold a six shooter, and never to run
As long as there's bullets in both of your guns.
-- Woody Guthrie

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ringo
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Message 1346 of 1429 (903950)
12-19-2022 11:41 AM
Reply to: Message 1327 by Dredge
12-18-2022 12:18 PM


Re: UCD evidence
Dredge writes:
... you can't expect a quick response from an idiot with an IQ of only 9.
You contradict yourself. You once called me "retarded" but I'm pretty quick on the draw.
(As Abraham Lincoln supposedly said, nobody has a good enough memory to be a good liar.)

Come all of you cowboys all over this land,
I'll teach you the law of the Ranger's Command:
To hold a six shooter, and never to run
As long as there's bullets in both of your guns.
-- Woody Guthrie

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ringo
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Message 1347 of 1429 (903951)
12-19-2022 11:48 AM
Reply to: Message 1336 by Dredge
12-19-2022 1:30 AM


Re: UCD evidence
Dredge writes:
Please cite a scientific paper that says the use of cow and pig insulin for humans would not have been possible without the theory of UCD.
​As others have pointed out to you, we don't have a lot of scientific papers saying that the earth is round or that elephants are big.
Now you go ahead and explain why creationists didn't think of it.

Come all of you cowboys all over this land,
I'll teach you the law of the Ranger's Command:
To hold a six shooter, and never to run
As long as there's bullets in both of your guns.
-- Woody Guthrie

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ringo
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Message 1348 of 1429 (903952)
12-19-2022 11:49 AM
Reply to: Message 1337 by Dredge
12-19-2022 1:32 AM


Re: UCD evidence
Dredge writes:
ringo writes:
You really should never have admitted to being so stupid.
Honesty is the best policy.
If you were honest, you would admit that you're too stupid to comment on evolution at all. Ergo, you are not honest.

Come all of you cowboys all over this land,
I'll teach you the law of the Ranger's Command:
To hold a six shooter, and never to run
As long as there's bullets in both of your guns.
-- Woody Guthrie

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Dredge
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Message 1349 of 1429 (903960)
12-19-2022 12:12 PM
Reply to: Message 1348 by ringo
12-19-2022 11:49 AM


Re: UCD evidence
ringoat writes:
If you were honest, you would admit that you're too stupid to comment on evolution at all.
An idiot can comment on evolution coz evolution is idiot science.
Ergo
Gee, you must be so brainy - you said "ergo" instead of "therefore". Impressive!
As for me, I'm way too dumb to use pretentious Latin words.

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ringo
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Message 1350 of 1429 (903964)
12-19-2022 12:38 PM
Reply to: Message 1349 by Dredge
12-19-2022 12:12 PM


Re: UCD evidence
Dredge writes:
An idiot can comment on evolution coz evolution is idiot science.
Non sequitur. An idiot "can" comment on anything but his comments are always going to be idiotic.
Dredge writes:
Gee, you must be so brainy - you said "ergo" instead of "therefore". Impressive!
Make up your mind. Am I brainy or retarded? If I'm brainy, maybe you can learn something from me - if you're capable of learning.
Dredge writes:
As for me, I'm way too dumb to use pretentious Latin words.
There you go again. If you're too dumb to use Latin words. you're too dumb to assess evolution.
And by the way, "ergo" was originally a Latin word. It is now a legitimate English word. It's in all the dictionaries.
(And also by the way, "ergo" is actually a smaller word than "therefore".)

Come all of you cowboys all over this land,
I'll teach you the law of the Ranger's Command:
To hold a six shooter, and never to run
As long as there's bullets in both of your guns.
-- Woody Guthrie

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