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ringo Member (Idle past 412 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Dredge writes:
But they don't. Why not? Because they reject the science that they need to produce anything useful. A YEC would use science to develop vaccines like any other scientist would."Let me win. But if I cannot win, let me be brave in the attempt." -- motto of the Special Olympians
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Dredge Member Posts: 2850 From: Australia Joined: |
ringo writes:
You've strawmaning. Your questions have nothing to do with whether or not the theory of u.common descent has proven useful in medicine.
why didn't YECs think of it? Why doesn't YEC "science" produce ANYTHING useful?"
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Dredge Member Posts: 2850 From: Australia Joined: |
Please provide an example of how the theory of universal common descent has proven useful in medicine.
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Dredge Member Posts: 2850 From: Australia Joined: |
Dredge writes:
YEC would use science to develop vaccines like any other scientist would.ringo writes:
Which useful medical science do YECs reject?
But they don't. Why not? Because they reject the science that they need to produce anything useful.
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dwise1 Member Posts: 5930 Joined: Member Rating: 5.8
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Well, if you really want to know, the ASK SOMEBODY WITH THAT DEGREE OF KNOWLEDGE, LIKE A MEDICAL RESEARCHER!
If you wanted to know something about computer programming, then you'd ask a programmer. If you wanted to know something about Catholic theology, then you'd ask a Catholic priest or theologian. If you wanted to know about some point of the law, then you'd ask a lawyer. If you wanted to know something about chip manufacturing, then you'd ask a chip manufacturer. If you wanted to know something about the inner workings of a particular car engine (especially regarding settings), then you'd ask a car mechanic, preferably one with experience with that kind of engine. If you really want to know something, you would ask the people who are expert in that subject. Pestering people repeatedly with the same idiotic bullshit question will not yield your answer, but rather will only serve your chosen purpose of being a fucking stupid troll. If you actually want to know the answer, then ask the professionals. If you don't, then shut the fuck up! Fucking evil troll!
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Tanypteryx Member Posts: 4344 From: Oregon, USA Joined: Member Rating: 5.9 |
Sludge writes: Please provide an example of how the theory of universal common descent has proven useful in medicine. Easy, all the mammals that are used to model human medical conditions, rather than fish or mollusks, because they are quite obviously more closely related to humans. No one tried using insulin or thyroids from other mammals to treat human diseases before they knew we are related.Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned! What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9076 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.7
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You need to learn what the term strawman means.
What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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Dredge Member Posts: 2850 From: Australia Joined: |
Dredge writes:
Please provide an example of how the theory of universal common descent has proven useful in medicine.Tanypteryx writes:
Even the village idiot would expect non-human mammals to more closely model human conditions than mollusks or fish. Easy, all the mammals that are used to model human medical conditions, rather than fish or mollusks, because they are quite obviously more closely related to humans. You don't need the theory of UCD to figure out that mammals are "more closely related to humans" physiologically than mollusks or fish.
No one tried using insulin or thyroids from other mammals to treat human diseases before they knew we are related.
How do you know what they tried? They probably experimented with lots of different mammals before simply choosing those that worked best ... trial and error ... nothing to do with the theory of UCD.
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Dredge Member Posts: 2850 From: Australia Joined: |
Sounds like I can safely assume that you yourself can't provide an example of how the theory of universal common descent has proven useful in medicine.
I thought you were an expert on evolution ...
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Tanypteryx Member Posts: 4344 From: Oregon, USA Joined: Member Rating: 5.9 |
You asked for an example and I gave you several.
Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned! What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq
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Dredge Member Posts: 2850 From: Australia Joined: |
Your arguments are so weak that the village idiot shot them all down in flames.
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Tanypteryx Member Posts: 4344 From: Oregon, USA Joined: Member Rating: 5.9 |
You are delusional, so I can understand your confusion.
ABE: fixed the spelling of delusional, that will teach me to type without my contacts in.Edited by Tanypteryx, . Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned! What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq
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Dredge Member Posts: 2850 From: Australia Joined: |
No one's ever called me "dilutional" before.
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Tanypteryx Member Posts: 4344 From: Oregon, USA Joined: Member Rating: 5.9 |
Sludge writes: Your arguments are so weak that the village idiot shot them all down in flames. You mistakenly think that your endlessly repeated inane questions are some sort of super-powerful rebuttal, meanwhile we have museums and libraries full of supporting evidence and you have a fictional book written by a bunch of bronze age Jewish goat herders.Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned! What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq
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ringo Member (Idle past 412 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Dredge writes:
The only thing wrong with my questions is that you can't answer them. Why haven't creationists come up with any useful medical results? Your questions have nothing to do with whether or not the theory of u.common descent has proven useful in medicine."Oh no, They've gone and named my home St. Petersburg. What's going on? Where are all the friends I had? It's all wrong, I'm feeling lost like I just don't belong. Give me back, give me back my Leningrad." -- Leningrad Cowboys
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