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ringo Member (Idle past 433 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined:
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Dredge writes:
When your conclusion is nonsensical, either your premises are false or your reasoning is fallacious. Or both. ... therefore your science is irrelevant.... And your conclusion is obviously nonsensical. Our science cures diseases and puts men on the moon. No sensible person would call it irrelevant."Let me win. But if I cannot win, let me be brave in the attempt." -- motto of the Special Olympians
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ringo Member (Idle past 433 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Dredge writes:
They're only called Darwinists by idiots. Every Darwinist believes ToE is a fact - that why they're called Darwinists."Let me win. But if I cannot win, let me be brave in the attempt." -- motto of the Special Olympians
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ringo Member (Idle past 433 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Dredge writes:
Someone who understands that the history of life on earth proceeded according to ToE is called a sensible person, an intelligent person, a science-minded person, a realist. We don't call ourselves Darwinists or Newtonists or Einsteinists.
A Darwinist is someone who believes that the history of life on earth proceeded according to ToE, which is based on the theory proposed by Charles Darwin. Dredge writes:
You should think but you don't. You have admitted your own lack of intelligence. So "Darwinist" is a rational and apt moniker, I should think."Let me win. But if I cannot win, let me be brave in the attempt." -- motto of the Special Olympians
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ringo Member (Idle past 433 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined:
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Dredge writes:
Non sequitur. You can't prove that ToE describes the process that produced the changes evident in the fossil record, therefore you can't claim to know how evolution works. Translation: It does not follow. You're confused about tenses. We may not have direct knowledge of exactly how a certain transition did happen historically (past tense). That does not prevent us from knowing how it does happen (present tense) when we see it happening. We have no reason to think it might have happened differently in the past."Let me win. But if I cannot win, let me be brave in the attempt." -- motto of the Special Olympians
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ringo Member (Idle past 433 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Dredge writes:
Science is based on evidence and not on "proof". That's the opposite of religion. Thank you for admitting that your quasi-religious beliefs are based on faith and not on facts."Let me win. But if I cannot win, let me be brave in the attempt." -- motto of the Special Olympians
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ringo Member (Idle past 433 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined:
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Dredge writes:
Nor do we want to. "Proof" doesn't enter into it. You might as well say we can't make ice cream out of it.
Prove it. You can't. Dredge writes:
You have already admitted that you are unintelligent - i.e. that you are mindless. Why would you be the one who can distinguish fact from folklore? All you can do it is recite Darwinist folklore and mindlessly claim it's factual."Let me win. But if I cannot win, let me be brave in the attempt." -- motto of the Special Olympians
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ringo Member (Idle past 433 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Dredge writes: ... he argues that ToE can't account for what is observed. That's not what you've been saying. Your claim is that we "can't know", not that we can't account for it. We can account for it to everybody's satisfaction but yours - and yours doesn't count because you're an admitted idiot."Let me win. But if I cannot win, let me be brave in the attempt." -- motto of the Special Olympians
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ringo Member (Idle past 433 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Dredge writes:
You don't uderstand what knowlege is. It isn't about "proof". It's about what works. Even if ToE is an accurate description of the process that shaped the history of life on earth, no one will ever know, because no one can prove that it is. As long as you keep talking about proof, you're just making yourself look stupid."Let me win. But if I cannot win, let me be brave in the attempt." -- motto of the Special Olympians
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ringo Member (Idle past 433 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined:
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Dredge writes:
Explain the joke. Why are you the only one laughing? ringo writes:
Hilarious. Facts aren't much good without an explanation."Let me win. But if I cannot win, let me be brave in the attempt." -- motto of the Special Olympians
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ringo Member (Idle past 433 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Dredge writes:
YOU don't know what knowledge means. You don't know that whales evolved according to ToE. You made a huge strategic error when you admitted how stupid you are. Now nothing you say can be taken seriously."Let me win. But if I cannot win, let me be brave in the attempt." -- motto of the Special Olympians
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ringo Member (Idle past 433 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Dredge writes:
Then why can't you demonstrate it? Give us millions of examples. It's a demonstrable fact that millions of folks believe that ToE is a fact - you're one of them. It IS a lie. And you have demonstrated that you're too stupid to tell a lie from the truth.
Dredge writes:
You don't understand what knowledge is, so you're in no position to make that claim. You don't know how even one evolutionary transition evident in the fossil record happened!"Let me win. But if I cannot win, let me be brave in the attempt." -- motto of the Special Olympians
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ringo Member (Idle past 433 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Dredge writes:
By your misunderstanding of knowledge, it would be impossible to know anything. Just because YOU know nothing, you idiot, it doesn't mean that nobody knows anything. All you can know from fossils is that "evolution" happened. The fossils don't let you know HOW "evolution" happened."Let me win. But if I cannot win, let me be brave in the attempt." -- motto of the Special Olympians
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ringo Member (Idle past 433 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined:
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Dredge writes:
And yet you presume to tell other people what they know.
... it's pretty safe to assume that someone with an IQ of 9 is already stupid. Dredge writes:
We don't want to talk about proof because science doesn't deal in proof. Science doesn't prove anything, not evolution, not gravity, not the shape of the earth. ... you don't want to talk about proof because you know full well that you can't prove that ToE describes the process that shaped the history of life on earth. YOU, on the other hand, want to talk about proof because you're too stupid to unerstand the first thing about science.
Dredge writes:
What the hell would you know about minds? Your mind doesn't want to venture outside it's safe and warm little bubble of Darwinist belief."Let me win. But if I cannot win, let me be brave in the attempt." -- motto of the Special Olympians
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ringo Member (Idle past 433 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Dredge writes:
And your argument is even worse than Bechly's. I was referring to Bechly's argument, not mine."Let me win. But if I cannot win, let me be brave in the attempt." -- motto of the Special Olympians
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ringo Member (Idle past 433 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Dredge writes:
For practical purposes, you are mindless. You have demonstrated repeatedly that you are incapable of using the few IQ poits that you do have.
I said I have an IQ of 9 and that therefore I qualify as an idiot ... an idiot is not "mindless". Dredge writes:
Give examples. ... sometimes even an idiot gets it right."Let me win. But if I cannot win, let me be brave in the attempt." -- motto of the Special Olympians
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