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Tanypteryx Member Posts: 4597 From: Oregon, USA Joined: Member Rating: 9.5 |
Sludge writes: Lame. So when scientists discuss the evolution of novel body plans and organs, you've got idea what they're talking about? No, when you talk about novel body plans and organs I don't know what you mean and you don't seem to ever have an answer. The only people I ever hear talking about novel body plans and organs are young earth creationists like you.Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned! What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq
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Dredge Member Posts: 2855 From: Australia Joined: |
Taqo writes:
Wow, in that case, you're an ignoramus who's read nothing about the evolutionary history of life on earth. Without the (alleged) evolution of novel body plans and organs, there would be nothing for evolutionary scientists to write about!! The only people I ever hear talking about novel body plans and organs are young earth creationists like you. Pray tell, how did the first life-forms (allegedly bacteria) evolve into all the other life-forms without the evolution of novel body plans and organs? There would be literally thousands of scientific papers and articles published that discuss the evolution of novel body plans and organs. Here are just a few:The Evolutionary Origins of Body Plans (Chapter 7) - Understanding Evo-Devo The Evolution of Complex Organs | Evolution: Education and Outreach | Full Text Origins of the other metazoan body plans: the evolution of larval forms - PMC https://www.sciencedirect.com/...ticle/pii/S0960982219305342 https://www.sciencedirect.com/...ticle/pii/S1567133X19302054 JSTOR: Access Check
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Tanypteryx Member Posts: 4597 From: Oregon, USA Joined: Member Rating: 9.5 |
Sludge writes: There would be literally thousands of scientific papers and articles published that discuss the evolution of novel body plans and organs. And I note that YOU still haven't described a single novel body plan or organ. Novel implies something completely new and unlike anything prior. Evolutionary processes do not produce novel body plans or organs in a single generation (which is the strawman you are implying), that's something that an ignoramus creationist would believe.Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned! What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq
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Taq Member Posts: 10296 Joined: Member Rating: 7.1
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Dredge writes: Wow, in that case, you're an ignoramus who's read nothing about the evolutionary history of life on earth. Without the (alleged) evolution of novel body plans and organs, there would be nothing for evolutionary scientists to write about!! Name a novel body plan and novel organs.
There would be literally thousands of scientific papers and articles published that discuss the evolution of novel body plans and organs. Here are just a few: There's your evidence. Go read up.
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Taq Member Posts: 10296 Joined: Member Rating: 7.1 |
Dredge writes: An atheist's favourite bedtime story ... UCD and how neo-Darwinian mechanisms produced the changes evident in the fossil record. Those are scientific theories, not stories. Is name calling all you have? Are you 5 years old?
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8654 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 6.6 |
Are you 5 years old? Tragically, his problems are much worse. He eats stale crackers with 2000 year-old jesus meat. His mind is lost to reality.Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!
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Dredge Member Posts: 2855 From: Australia Joined: |
Taqo writes:
I love your sense of humour!
Those are scientific theories, not stories.
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Dredge Member Posts: 2855 From: Australia Joined: |
Taqo writes:
Ever heard of the Cambrian explosion?
Name a novel body plan and novel organs.
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8654 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 6.6 |
I don't think Cambrian explosion is a body plan or a novel organ. It's a time period that lasted some 30 million years.
Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!
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Taq Member Posts: 10296 Joined: Member Rating: 7.1 |
Dredge writes: Ever heard of the Cambrian explosion? Name a novel body plan and novel organs.
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Taq Member Posts: 10296 Joined: Member Rating: 7.1 |
Dredge writes: I love your sense of humour! So you are 5 years old.
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sensei Member (Idle past 198 days) Posts: 482 Joined: |
Thanks for pointing this out.
I thought the major argument for common ancestry was that we have so much of our DNA in common with different species that appear to be very different, including plants and such. So it turns out that we actually don't.
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8654 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 6.6 |
So it turns out that we actually don't. Don't you think that 40-50% of your genome shared with onion qualifies as "that we have so much of our DNA in common with different species"? Half seems rather substantial unless you are trying to force a specific conclusion from loose syntax. "that we have so much of our DNA in common with different species" seems to indicate we are talking about more than one gene. I would suggest half your genome is a rather large and significant portion to share with other organisms. So it turns out, yes, we do in fact share significant portions of our genome with plants and such strongly evidencing common ancestry quite pointedly. [abe] Have a look at the genes we share in the onion genome. What do those genes do? Why are they the same genes we share with not just onion but most of multi-cellular life? Common ancestry through evolution provides and clear answer as to why. Edited by AZPaul3, . Edited by AZPaul3, . Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!
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MrIntelligentDesign Member (Idle past 559 days) Posts: 248 Joined: |
Only the new ID could explain the correct explanation of Gravity.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XO6Tqr02ENQ&lc=UgywRafvDY...
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nwr Member Posts: 6484 From: Geneva, Illinois Joined: Member Rating: 8.6 |
I watched the video.
It is a steaming pile of horse manure. This is probably the most confused and garbled "explanation" of general relativity that I have ever seen. I suggest treating it as comedy.--> -->Fundamentalism - the anti-American, anti-Christian branch of American Christianity <-- <--
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