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MrIntelligentDesign
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Message 496 of 534 (901439)
11-10-2022 3:00 AM
Reply to: Message 491 by Dredge
11-09-2022 2:12 PM


Hi Dredge and to those who are against Evolution.
Evolution is wrong and stupid. We need to change the explanation with a new Theory in Biology for origin and change of frequency alleles.
Darwin was stupid.
The Intelligent Design had formulated Biological Interrelation, a better theory than evolution, since Interrelation uses intelligence and included the whole part/scope of reality.
It is like Flat Earth (Evolution) versus Round Earth (Interrelation)...
If you could correctly differentiate the two in science, then, you will understand how stupid Evolution is and how powerful and correct Interrelation is.
I can explain further, if you wish to share the new theory.
Let us debate those erroneous supporters of Evolution with new model...and see who has the best evidences.
Below is the First Detailed Argument of Intelligent Design
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iAzPyb3ppcw&t=40s

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ringo
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Message 497 of 534 (901466)
11-10-2022 10:52 AM
Reply to: Message 495 by MrIntelligentDesign
11-10-2022 2:52 AM


MrIntelligentDesign writes:
Wow, this thread had discussed many things. Supposed to be, this is only for the Intelligent Design and its Arguments.
The thing is, we can't get you guys to discuss Intelligent Design, so we have to go farther afield to find something to talk about.
MrIntelligentDesign writes:
If there is no sin or error of existence (error in intelligence), there will be no poisonous snakes or no killings...
Your "designer" had no choice in the matter? So he's definitely not an omnipotent god.
MrIntelligentDesign writes:
Intelligence gives life, violations of intelligence kill.
That doesn't seem right at all. Plants don't kill. By your logic, plants are more intelligent than animals.
MrIntelligentDesign writes:
Thus it predicts that there was a time in the history of humanity or earth that humans had violated intelligence and become stupid.
Do you have any evidence of that prediction? At what point in history did people become dumber than plants?
How are you measuring intelligence?

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I'll teach you the law of the Ranger's Command:
To hold a six shooter, and never to run
As long as there's bullets in both of your guns.
-- Woody Guthrie

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ringo
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Message 498 of 534 (901470)
11-10-2022 11:00 AM
Reply to: Message 496 by MrIntelligentDesign
11-10-2022 3:00 AM


MrIntelligentDesign writes:
The Intelligent Design had formulated Biological Interrelation, a better theory than evolution....
I googled "Biological Interrelation" and google suggested I try "biological interaction" instead. When I insisted that it search for "Biological Interrelation", it found a lot of pages on biological relations (plural).
So, if your "theory" of Biological Interrelation is better than evolution, how come nobody has ever heard of it? There don't even seem to be crackpot websites using that term. A cynic might think you just made it up right this minute.

Come all of you cowboys all over this land,
I'll teach you the law of the Ranger's Command:
To hold a six shooter, and never to run
As long as there's bullets in both of your guns.
-- Woody Guthrie

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Message 499 of 534 (901488)
11-10-2022 2:55 PM
Reply to: Message 496 by MrIntelligentDesign
11-10-2022 3:00 AM


MrIntelligentDesign writes:
The Intelligent Design had formulated Biological Interrelation, a better theory than evolution, since Interrelation uses intelligence and included the whole part/scope of reality.
Well, since it is a better theory then it should give better explanations for these observations:
1. The nested hierarchy
2. The difference in sequence conservation between exons and introns.
3. The difference in rates for transition and transversions in human-chimp genome comparisons.
4. Transitional hominid fossils.
5. The pattern of orthologous ERV's in primates.
That should be a good start.

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MrIntelligentDesign
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Message 500 of 534 (901543)
11-10-2022 8:34 PM
Reply to: Message 497 by ringo
11-10-2022 10:52 AM


Do you really know the ARGUMENTS of Intelligent Design, as shared in the video, especially the OP?

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Theodoric
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Message 501 of 534 (901545)
11-10-2022 8:40 PM
Reply to: Message 500 by MrIntelligentDesign
11-10-2022 8:34 PM


We don't use videos. Either explain in your own words or go away.

What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?


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MrIntelligentDesign
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Message 502 of 534 (901546)
11-10-2022 8:43 PM
Reply to: Message 498 by ringo
11-10-2022 11:00 AM


Evolution is wrong and proven wrong, but the journals did not want Evolution to be defeated, like religion.
You can Google my article in Zenodo and you will read some info.

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MrIntelligentDesign
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Message 503 of 534 (901547)
11-10-2022 8:44 PM
Reply to: Message 501 by Theodoric
11-10-2022 8:40 PM


It is too long. Darwin and Evolution could never be explained in one sentence, without asking for details.

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MrIntelligentDesign
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Message 504 of 534 (901548)
11-10-2022 8:58 PM
Reply to: Message 499 by Taq
11-10-2022 2:55 PM


You really do not know how to start...
EVOLUTION IS...
On 1859 AD, a group of scientists had concluded that the shape of the earth is Flat. They called themselves Flat Earthers. They also wrote science book titled, “On the Origin of Flat Earth by Means of Area Selection”. They based their scientific explanation of Flat Earth from flat surfaces of Earth found in some major cities worldwide (not around the world) like Manila, Tokyo, Beijing, Canberra, Jakarta, Moscow, New Delhi, Riyadh, Johannesburg, Rabat, Abuja, Berlin, London, Ottawa, Washington DC, Brasilia, and Buenos Aires, etc. The basis or point of reference uses a 2 km x 2 km square flat surface, 4 km2 (4 km^2) area, on all picked cities. Since these picked flat surfaces could be found worldwide (not around the world), they concluded that the shape of the earth is really flat, and not round. They also had pictures of those flat surfaces and claimed that they could extend the area to 4 km x 4 km square flat surface, 16 km2 (16 km^2). To Flat Earthers, Round Earthers are wrong and to dis-agree with this conclusion is to become science-deniers.
To support their arguments, they invented scientific predictions for Flat Earth: (1) If Flat Earth is true, then, humans can build 50 story’s building inside the 4 km2 (4 km^2) area. (2) If Flat Earth is true, then, humans can run with their pet dogs. Flat Earthers too had invented scientific falsification criteria to disprove the theory of Flat Earth. (a) If we cannot fly a kite in Flat Earth, then, Flat Earth is not true. (b) If we cannot farm peanuts in a picked 4 km2 (4 km^2) area, then, Flat Earth is not true. Flat Earthers too claimed that there are bumped flat earth (symbolizes: slight modifications or progressions), or curve flat earth (symbolizes: beneficial changes, selective pressure and non-random) and dented flat earth (symbolizes: positive selection, strong selection, manual selection, artificial selection), to support their explanations of Flat Earth.
When they were presented with many pictures of whole round Earth from NASA, taken by a Hubble Space Telescope (HST) orbiting the Earth, (symbolizes the new Intelligent Design from me), those Flat Earthers ridiculed the whole pictures and dismissed them as hoaxes.

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Message 505 of 534 (901549)
11-10-2022 10:11 PM
Reply to: Message 503 by MrIntelligentDesign
11-10-2022 8:44 PM


You have more than a sentence available to you. But we know, you are just a troll and a crank trying to get clicks.

What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?


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Message 506 of 534 (901550)
11-10-2022 10:33 PM
Reply to: Message 502 by MrIntelligentDesign
11-10-2022 8:43 PM


Evolution is wrong and proven wrong ...
BS. What is this proof? Bring it here and show it to me.
And some link to a self-serving religious tirade will not suffice. Bring it here. Explain it. Show me.
Feel free to be verbose.

Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!

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ringo
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Message 507 of 534 (901648)
11-13-2022 1:33 PM
Reply to: Message 500 by MrIntelligentDesign
11-10-2022 8:34 PM


MrIntelligentDesign writes:
Do you really know the ARGUMENTS of Intelligent Design, as shared in the video, especially the OP?
I don't do videos. They have a hypnotic quality that fools people into thinking they make sense.
If you have any arguments for Intelligent design, present them in your own words. And answer the questions in the post you're replying to.

Come all of you cowboys all over this land,
I'll teach you the law of the Ranger's Command:
To hold a six shooter, and never to run
As long as there's bullets in both of your guns.
-- Woody Guthrie

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ringo
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Message 508 of 534 (901649)
11-13-2022 1:35 PM
Reply to: Message 503 by MrIntelligentDesign
11-10-2022 8:44 PM


MrIntelligentDesign writes:
Darwin and Evolution could never be explained in one sentence, without asking for details.
What's wrong with asking for details? Tell us about Intelligent design in one sentence and we'll ask for details. That's how discussion works.

Come all of you cowboys all over this land,
I'll teach you the law of the Ranger's Command:
To hold a six shooter, and never to run
As long as there's bullets in both of your guns.
-- Woody Guthrie

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ringo
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Message 509 of 534 (901650)
11-13-2022 1:38 PM
Reply to: Message 504 by MrIntelligentDesign
11-10-2022 8:58 PM


Mr.IntelligentDesign writes:
On 1859 AD, a group of scientists had concluded that the shape of the earth is Flat.
Do you not realize that creationists and IDists are science-deniers, just like flat-earthers? Your description of flat-earthers exactly describes you.

Come all of you cowboys all over this land,
I'll teach you the law of the Ranger's Command:
To hold a six shooter, and never to run
As long as there's bullets in both of your guns.
-- Woody Guthrie

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ringo
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Message 510 of 534 (901651)
11-13-2022 1:40 PM
Reply to: Message 502 by MrIntelligentDesign
11-10-2022 8:43 PM


MrIntelligentDesign writes:
Evolution is wrong and proven wrong....
Nope and nope.
And you're demonstrating that you have no interest in discussing Intelligent Design (because there's nothing to discuss).
All you want to do is tear evolution down but you have nothing to replace it with.

Come all of you cowboys all over this land,
I'll teach you the law of the Ranger's Command:
To hold a six shooter, and never to run
As long as there's bullets in both of your guns.
-- Woody Guthrie

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