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Phat
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Message 376 of 563 (917943)
04-20-2024 10:29 AM
Reply to: Message 375 by Percy
04-20-2024 10:17 AM


Re: What is the root cause of Inflation?
That sounds about right. Note my edited topic prior. I wonder what Chat GPT thinks?
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Percy writes:
someone who thinks he knows what he's talking about but hasn't a clue nor any evidence nor the ability to interpret evidence presented to him
There. Much better.
I await your evidence that contradicts my sources assertion that the US dollars best days are over.

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Theodoric
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Message 377 of 563 (917944)
04-20-2024 10:37 AM
Reply to: Message 374 by Phat
04-20-2024 10:03 AM


Re: Theo Demands Credentials
So you have no evidence he is an economist even though you claimed he was. Were you lying? Why did you feel the need to mention he was from Puerto Rico at all?
What makes me an elitist? That I research topics before I spout random shit? That I vet sources before relying on them?
There are many people with relevant degrees that are horrible humans.
Irrelevant. Whether they are knowledgeable in their fields is relevant. You have no idea if this latest joker of yours is a good or evil human being. You know absolutely nothing about except what he has told you.
You need to quit trolling. You are just not good at it.

What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up, why would you have to lie?


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Theodoric
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Message 378 of 563 (917945)
04-20-2024 10:40 AM
Reply to: Message 376 by Phat
04-20-2024 10:29 AM


Re: What is the root cause of Inflation?
So you expect someone to peer into the future? You truly do not understand how ridiculous you sound.

What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up, why would you have to lie?


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Phat
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Message 379 of 563 (917946)
04-20-2024 11:11 AM
Reply to: Message 377 by Theodoric
04-20-2024 10:37 AM


Re: Theo Demands Credentials
The fact that you challenge my wisdom without knowing much about me apart from my rants here speaks volumes about your ties to elitism. Is it not possible that I in fact know more about economic macrotrends than you do? You always are quick to attack me personally, but I will ignore you for now until you learn to be more professional or do some studies on your own. Or do you have to wait for a guy with a degree to give you anything? THAT defines your progressive elitism.

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Percy
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Message 380 of 563 (917947)
04-20-2024 11:17 AM
Reply to: Message 376 by Phat
04-20-2024 10:29 AM


Re: What is the root cause of Inflation?
Phat in Message 376 writes:
I await your evidence that contradicts my sources assertion that the US dollars best days are over.
What can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence. You don't need sources, which is just the fallacy of argument from authority. You need evidence, which you don't have. You don't even have a plausible argument. You're still listening to guys trying to scare you about the economy. And they're succeeding, because you're a complete rube.
If your position had a leg to stand on you wouldn't be citing sources and repeating baseless assertions. You'd be presenting actual evidence in a coherent and persuasive manner.
--Percy

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Phat
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Message 381 of 563 (917948)
04-20-2024 11:18 AM
Reply to: Message 378 by Theodoric
04-20-2024 10:40 AM


Re: What is the root cause of Inflation?
Phat addressing Percy writes:
I await your evidence that contradicts my sources assertion that the US dollars best days are over.
Theo writes:
So you expect someone to peer into the future?
Thats what economists do. They gather data to make their case.
You truly do not understand how ridiculous you sound.
You are simply incredulous that a hillbilly with no degree just might know something more than what you have learned.

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Percy
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Message 382 of 563 (917949)
04-20-2024 11:19 AM
Reply to: Message 379 by Phat
04-20-2024 11:11 AM


Re: Theo Demands Credentials
Phat in Message 379 writes:
The fact that you challenge my wisdom...
Gee, thanks a lot. I just sprayed my coffee all over the room.
--Percy

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Tangle
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Message 383 of 563 (917950)
04-20-2024 11:21 AM
Reply to: Message 374 by Phat
04-20-2024 10:03 AM


Re: Theo Demands Credentials
Did you really just call us all a name but didn't know what it meant?
You really are just regurgitating the crap you hear on Youtube without understanding any of it aren't you?

Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London. Olen Suomi Soy Barcelona. I am Ukraine.

"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.


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Phat
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Message 384 of 563 (917951)
04-20-2024 11:31 AM
Reply to: Message 383 by Tangle
04-20-2024 11:21 AM


Re: Theo Demands Credentials
I may not fully understand what I am learning yet but I am getting closer to understanding macro economics better than I did a year ago.
You know a little something about finance. Let me think a bit about some questions to throw at you. Then we can go fishing. Have you seen the price of meat lately??

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Percy
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Message 385 of 563 (917952)
04-20-2024 11:37 AM
Reply to: Message 384 by Phat
04-20-2024 11:31 AM


Re: Theo Demands Credentials
Phat in Message 384 writes:
Tangle in Message 383 writes:
You really are just regurgitating the crap you hear on Youtube without understanding any of it aren't you?
I may not fully understand what I am learning yet but I am getting closer to understanding macro economics better than I did a year ago.
You're not going to improve your understanding of anything, including macroeconomics, by listening to Internet wingnuts.
--Percy

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Theodoric
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Message 386 of 563 (917953)
04-20-2024 11:39 AM
Reply to: Message 379 by Phat
04-20-2024 11:11 AM


Re: Theo Demands Credentials
You have shown no wisdom. Alas, wisdom is worthless without knowledge to back it up. You don't even understand that they are different concepts, do you? Do you even know what "economic macrotrends" even means?
but I will ignore you for now until you learn to be more professional or do some studies on your own.
This is not a professional venue, so no I will pass. Why would I want to do my own studies on a complex subject I do not understand well? I think I will listen to the experts. How elite of me.
Do you want to compare investment results? I will give out my % returns for the last 10 years.

What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up, why would you have to lie?


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Phat
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Message 387 of 563 (917954)
04-20-2024 11:42 AM
Reply to: Message 385 by Percy
04-20-2024 11:37 AM


And Percy Demands Evidence
Percy writes:
You're not going to improve your understanding of anything, including macroeconomics, by listening to Internet wingnuts.
True, but you have yet to prove that Gammon's theories are nutty. I suppose I will have to do my homework, but I am still unimpressed with your economic knowledge so far.
I know that you will not watch the video so give me a few days to pull what I think to be relevant out of the transcript.
I will try harder to form responses using more of my own words.

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Phat
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Message 388 of 563 (917955)
04-20-2024 11:45 AM
Reply to: Message 386 by Theodoric
04-20-2024 11:39 AM


Re: Theo Demands Credentials
Theo writes:
Do you want to compare investment results? I will give out my % returns for the last 10 years.
Thats not a fair fight. The economy was on an upward cycle the past ten years. I was a compulsive gambler in the meantime.
I know that you and your wife have done well and I respect that.
What I don't respect is your disdain for me.

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Theodoric
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Message 389 of 563 (917956)
04-20-2024 11:46 AM
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04-20-2024 11:31 AM


Re: Theo Demands Credentials
Price of beef us lagging overall inflation.
Beef and veal price inflation, 2020→2024

What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up, why would you have to lie?


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Theodoric
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Message 390 of 563 (917957)
04-20-2024 11:54 AM
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04-20-2024 11:45 AM


Re: Theo Demands Credentials
I do not have disdain, I have pity. Is that worse?
Do you remember the last 10 years? The economy was pretty stagnant until the bottom fell out with COVID and we are finally seeing an uptick with progressive economic policies finally in place.

What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up, why would you have to lie?


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