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ringo
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Message 4 of 116 (888721)
09-30-2021 12:07 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Percy
09-29-2021 5:40 PM


Percy writes:
... isn't knowing that i'm racist half the battle?
Maybe less than half. It's showing up on the battlefield.
I'm wearing an orange shirt today. It's Orange Shirt Day in Canada, a day to promote awareness of racism against indigenous people. So I'm on the battlefield, in uniform - but not strictly doing anything.

"I call that bold talk for a one-eyed fat man!"
-- Lucky Ned Pepper

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ringo
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Message 8 of 116 (888727)
10-01-2021 11:56 AM
Reply to: Message 5 by dwise1
09-30-2021 6:09 PM


dwise1 writes:
... could you possibly pick a different color?
I don't know why they picked orange. It's pretty distinctive, I guess.
We also have a political party, the New Democratic Party (which is self-proclaimed socialist) whose official colour is orange. (The liberals are red and the Conservatives are blue.)
As for green, our local pro football team's colours are green and white and they do a lot of merchandising - so anytime you go outside you're bound to see a sea of green.

"I call that bold talk for a one-eyed fat man!"
-- Lucky Ned Pepper

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ringo
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Message 28 of 116 (888759)
10-03-2021 11:38 AM
Reply to: Message 20 by Son Goku
10-02-2021 4:58 PM


Son Goku writes:
... how we made tactile contact with him, such as back patting, nudging during a joke etc.
My cousin's husband told a story about when he was hitchhiking through Louisiana in the old hippie days:
He stopped at a laundromat to do some laundry and was well under way before he realized that he was the only white person in the place. (I probably would have noticed as soon as I opened the door and I would have quietly gone on my way. But he was very innocent in some ways - I honestly can't remember him ever having a bad word to say about anybody.)
One of the black women came over and showed him a shirt and asked if he'd like to try it on. It was a nice shirt, so he gladly tried it on. He realized only later that the lady had been testing him because a lot of white people wouldn't want to touch anything that a black person had worn.

"I call that bold talk for a one-eyed fat man!"
-- Lucky Ned Pepper

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ringo
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Message 39 of 116 (895704)
07-11-2022 12:47 PM
Reply to: Message 33 by Phat
07-09-2022 3:45 PM


Re: What sort of Ist are you?
Phat writes:
My point is that Dredge is more of an anti-liberal than he is ageist or racist.
Racism is part of our evolution and so is liberality toward our own social group. We are trying to overcome our evolutionary heritage by broadening our social group to include other races and extending our liberality.
Ironically, conservatives like Dredge are trying to conserve our evolved flaws while at the same time denying evolution.

"Let me win. But if I cannot win, let me be brave in the attempt."
-- motto of the Special Olympians

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ringo
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Message 41 of 116 (897886)
09-14-2022 3:57 PM
Reply to: Message 40 by candle2
09-14-2022 3:06 PM


Re: What sort of Ist are you?
What does your rant have to do with anything I said?

"Oh no, They've gone and named my home St. Petersburg.
What's going on? Where are all the friends I had?
It's all wrong, I'm feeling lost like I just don't belong.
Give me back, give me back my Leningrad."
-- Leningrad Cowboys

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ringo
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Message 47 of 116 (897992)
09-17-2022 12:28 PM
Reply to: Message 46 by candle2
09-17-2022 11:10 AM


Re: What sort of Ist are you?
candle2 writes:
LBJ and the Democrats....
You like Trump, don't you?

"Oh no, They've gone and named my home St. Petersburg.
What's going on? Where are all the friends I had?
It's all wrong, I'm feeling lost like I just don't belong.
Give me back, give me back my Leningrad."
-- Leningrad Cowboys

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ringo
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Posts: 20940
From: frozen wasteland
Joined: 03-23-2005


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Message 56 of 116 (898087)
09-18-2022 3:22 PM
Reply to: Message 52 by Phat
09-18-2022 10:12 AM


Re: What sort of Ist are you?
Phat writes:
I agree with that.
Congratulations. Candle will be a good mentor for you.
Phat writes:
I think that Biden is a puppet.
Whose puppet?
Phat writes:
If Dems want to remain in power, they need to do much better than old Joe...
There you go, quoting Trump.
Phat writes:
... and two harpy women. (Kamala and AOC)
Is that sexism or racism? Or both?

"Oh no, They've gone and named my home St. Petersburg.
What's going on? Where are all the friends I had?
It's all wrong, I'm feeling lost like I just don't belong.
Give me back, give me back my Leningrad."
-- Leningrad Cowboys

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ringo
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Posts: 20940
From: frozen wasteland
Joined: 03-23-2005


Message 60 of 116 (898257)
09-21-2022 3:24 PM
Reply to: Message 59 by candle2
09-21-2022 2:50 PM


Re: What sort of Ist are you?
candle2 writes:
he Apostle Peter makes an important statement in
2 Peter 3:8 "But beloved, be not ignorant of this one
thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand
years, and a thousand years as on day.

Can this verse have several meanings?
Yes - but an exact mathematical equivalence is not one of them. For example, if the six days of creation was exactly six thousand years, then that really messes up Bishop Ussher's calculations.
candle2 writes:
While it is true that we don't know the day nor the
hour of Christ's return, we can know when it in nigh.
Strictly speaking, when you think it's nigh, it isn't.
candle2 writes:
If the seventh day Sabbath is a 1000 years long, then
so are the other six days. It would make absolutely no
sense to assume differently.
Tell it to Bishop Ussher.

"Oh no, They've gone and named my home St. Petersburg.
What's going on? Where are all the friends I had?
It's all wrong, I'm feeling lost like I just don't belong.
Give me back, give me back my Leningrad."
-- Leningrad Cowboys

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ringo
Member (Idle past 384 days)
Posts: 20940
From: frozen wasteland
Joined: 03-23-2005


Message 64 of 116 (898291)
09-21-2022 10:03 PM
Reply to: Message 61 by candle2
09-21-2022 5:37 PM


Re: What sort of Ist are you?
candle2 writes:
Ringo, I never said that the six days of creation were a
period of 1000 years each. The days of creations were
each 24 hours in length.
You brought up the one-day-is-as-a-thousand-days thing. What did you mean by it then?
candle2 writes:
And, I have no idea who Bishop Ussher is.
Do you have any idea what Google is?

"Oh no, They've gone and named my home St. Petersburg.
What's going on? Where are all the friends I had?
It's all wrong, I'm feeling lost like I just don't belong.
Give me back, give me back my Leningrad."
-- Leningrad Cowboys

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ringo
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Posts: 20940
From: frozen wasteland
Joined: 03-23-2005


Message 80 of 116 (898510)
09-25-2022 2:57 PM
Reply to: Message 65 by candle2
09-24-2022 8:48 AM


Re: What sort of Ist are you?
candle2 writes:
the earth; sun; moon; and, the entirety of the
universe was already in existence before the creation
week in Genesis.
That's one way to try to reconcile the errors in Genesis 1.
candle2 writes:
Tohuw means to lie waste. Look up the Word waste in
the dictionary. By no stretch of the imagination can
waste/tohuw be indicative of something just created.
that's called the old switcheroo - look it up in Strong and then pick one word from strong to look up in the dictionary.
No need to do that. Here's the whole citation from Strong:
quote:
8414 tohuw to'-hoo from an unused root meaning to lie waste; a desolation (of surface), i.e. desert; figuratively, a worthless thing; adverbially, in vain:--confusion, empty place, without form, nothing, (thing of) nought, vain, vanity, waste, wilderness.
A desert could certainly be something just created.
candle2 writes:
The same goes for void-bohuw, # 922 Strong's. Bohuw
means "an undistinguishable ruin."
Again, let's look at what Strong actually says:
quote:
922 bohuw bo'-hoo from an unused root (meaning to be empty); a vacuity, i.e. (superficially) an undistinguishable ruin:--emptiness, void.
Vacuity, emptyness.
candle2 writes:
Nothing is created as an undistinguishable ruin.
But things are often created empty.
candle2 writes:
This requires a destructive process, not a creative one.
Wrong. See above.
Have you even read Strong or did you just quote second-hand from some creationist source?
candle2 writes:
There is more to support that Genesis is describing a
renewal and not an original creation, but no more
should be needed.
Neither Psalms nor Isaiah nor Job supports your perversion of Genesis. Of course the earth is constantly being renewed. That has nothing to do with Genesis.
candle2 writes:
Romans 5:12 states that death exists only because of
the sins of Adam.
Romans is wrong. If there was no death before Adam and Eve, how could God threaten them with death?

"Oh no, They've gone and named my home St. Petersburg.
What's going on? Where are all the friends I had?
It's all wrong, I'm feeling lost like I just don't belong.
Give me back, give me back my Leningrad."
-- Leningrad Cowboys

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ringo
Member (Idle past 384 days)
Posts: 20940
From: frozen wasteland
Joined: 03-23-2005


Message 82 of 116 (898517)
09-25-2022 3:21 PM
Reply to: Message 81 by Phat
09-25-2022 3:18 PM


Re: Moving Topic From Racism Thread.
Phat writes:
This rabbit trail would be better placed here.
Mebbe so, but I gotta hunt where the game is.

"Oh no, They've gone and named my home St. Petersburg.
What's going on? Where are all the friends I had?
It's all wrong, I'm feeling lost like I just don't belong.
Give me back, give me back my Leningrad."
-- Leningrad Cowboys

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ringo
Member (Idle past 384 days)
Posts: 20940
From: frozen wasteland
Joined: 03-23-2005


Message 84 of 116 (898524)
09-25-2022 3:40 PM
Reply to: Message 83 by Phat
09-25-2022 3:26 PM


Re: Moving Topic From Racism Thread.
Phat writes:
What are you hunting?
People who are wrong.

"Oh no, They've gone and named my home St. Petersburg.
What's going on? Where are all the friends I had?
It's all wrong, I'm feeling lost like I just don't belong.
Give me back, give me back my Leningrad."
-- Leningrad Cowboys

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ringo
Member (Idle past 384 days)
Posts: 20940
From: frozen wasteland
Joined: 03-23-2005


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Message 86 of 116 (898536)
09-25-2022 3:57 PM
Reply to: Message 85 by Phat
09-25-2022 3:55 PM


Re: Moving Topic From Racism Thread.
Phat writes:
My beloved Contrarian!
On the contrary, , I am only contrary to people who are wrong. Look at how many people I cheer.

"Oh no, They've gone and named my home St. Petersburg.
What's going on? Where are all the friends I had?
It's all wrong, I'm feeling lost like I just don't belong.
Give me back, give me back my Leningrad."
-- Leningrad Cowboys

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ringo
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Posts: 20940
From: frozen wasteland
Joined: 03-23-2005


Message 91 of 116 (898562)
09-26-2022 12:27 PM
Reply to: Message 89 by Phat
09-26-2022 12:01 PM


Re: Redirecting Political Discussion
Phat writes:
I don't believe that government should "legislate fairness".
What DO you think governments should do?
And conversely, how else will we achieve fairness?

"Oh no, They've gone and named my home St. Petersburg.
What's going on? Where are all the friends I had?
It's all wrong, I'm feeling lost like I just don't belong.
Give me back, give me back my Leningrad."
-- Leningrad Cowboys

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ringo
Member (Idle past 384 days)
Posts: 20940
From: frozen wasteland
Joined: 03-23-2005


Message 95 of 116 (898601)
09-26-2022 10:09 PM
Reply to: Message 92 by candle2
09-26-2022 3:25 PM


Re: What sort of Ist are you?
candle2 writes:
Tohuw's primary meaning is "to lie waste."
No. You don't get to decide what the "primary meaning" is. YOU were the one wo (mis)quoted Strong. I just pointed out what Strong actually said.
candle2 writes:
Isaiah 45:18 states that the earth was not not created
tohuw.
It says no such thing:
quote:
Isaiah 45:18 For thus saith the Lord that created the heavens; God himself that formed the earth and made it; he hath established it, he created it not in vain, he formed it to be inhabited: I am the Lord; and there is none else.
candle2 writes:
Now you say that the earth was created as a desert,
worthless thing or desolate, a vacuity
I didn't say it. Strong did.
candle2 writes:
But that directly contradicts Isaiah 45:18 that states
the earth was not created tohuw, or as you say: desert,
worthless thing, or desolate place.
I quoted it above. It does not contradict what Strong said.
candle2 writes:
If tohuw is not the condition that the earth was
created in....
Tohuw IS the condition that the earth was created in. But tohuw does NOT mean what you claim it does. You're contradicting your own source.
candle2 writes:
You mentioned that Adam and Eve, who had never
experienced death, would not know what death
meant.

Sure they would. God told them.
You're embellishing again. There's nothing in the story to suggest that God told them anything about death. They would have to have known about it already, from observation of reality, or His threat would have been meaningless.
candle2 writes:
And, no offense, but Paul, who wrote Romans, has
been known by a good many of people down
through the centuries.

If one of you two is lying, it sure ain't him.
Pay attention. I didn't say he was lying. I said he was wrong.

"Oh no, They've gone and named my home St. Petersburg.
What's going on? Where are all the friends I had?
It's all wrong, I'm feeling lost like I just don't belong.
Give me back, give me back my Leningrad."
-- Leningrad Cowboys

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