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Author Topic:   Discussion With An Adventist Pastor: Raphael and Phat Only (for now)
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Message 16 of 16 (887687)
08-20-2021 8:37 AM

Catching Up With Raphael
Raphael, I know that you have been busy. Not too many here at EvC know the full capacity of your life (including me) but I think I know you better than EvC does.
I have been rather ornery and somewhat delusional here at the Forum of late. Percy thinks its my blood sugar, and urges me to take better care of myself. I DO go to counseling, and am growing slowly in regards to awareness and rationality, and EvC is a place for me to vent. (I have had some issues in my head clear up lately regarding events that happened to me in my youth and perhaps selfishly used EvC as a venting spot...but it damaged my already shaky reputation here) Perhaps only a few here understand this fact and I am thinking that all of them are bothered by it. I come across as a right wing racist, and this is a bit surprising to me yet it is through pushing certain buttons and hot button topics that I understand the contrary positions of most of the educated folks here.
(Anyone reading this that would like to respond can do so in the Peanut Gallery Comments On Great Debate topic. )
Anyway, Raphael, I thought of you after reading Message 310 which I happened to read this morning.
ICANT writes:
I can't support Young Earth Creationism at all.
The only thing they teach that I can support is that "God did it", which is a conclusion on their part.
Modern Young Earth Creation was invented by Ellen G. White in the 1800's after she had been hit on the head by a rock and was in a coma for 2 weeks. It is not supported by the Bible.
I have argued with YEC"S here and on two other websites and no one has ever presented a scripture that supports their belief.
They are just like the people who want to claim the universe is 13.5 billion years old, they have no supporting evidence . If the universe had a beginning to exist 13.5 billion years ago, and there was no existence before the universe began to exist, then where did it come from. Best answer given until this date is "We don't know". Then the argument goes on but we know what we believe and it has to be so.
I did a search last night and found that they are still no closer to an answer than they were when I started posting on EvC 12 years ago.
In fact the origin of the universe is classified as one of the most mysterious events that has ever occurred.
So what are your personal thoughts on the importance and validity of Ellen G.White?

"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain "
“…far from science having buried God, not only do the results of science point towards his existence, but the scientific enterprise itself is validated by his existence.”- Dr.John Lennox

“The whole war between the atheist and the theist comes down to this: the atheist believes a 'what' created the universe; the theist believes a 'who' created the universe.”
- Criss Jami, Killo

“The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him.” — Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is Within You

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