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Phat
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Message 301 of 380 (897710)
09-10-2022 12:08 PM
Reply to: Message 298 by Tanypteryx
09-10-2022 12:29 AM


Re: Cool. Something Sorta Good.
I know. I was joking. There are several plausible events that could and would wipe out modern civilization as we know it.
  • Yellowstone or other major volcanic eruptions such as Mt. Ranier
  • Asteroid
  • Nuclear War (as little as 5 warheads would do the trick)
    Civilization won't be wiped out by the events themselves but by the resulting human reaction to the event. If we don't reach out and help each other now, we certainly wont once resources are drastically altered.

    "A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain "
    ***
    “…far from science having buried God, not only do the results of science point towards his existence, but the scientific enterprise itself is validated by his existence.”- Dr.John Lennox

    “A God without wrath brought men without sin into a Kingdom without judgment through the ministrations of a Christ without a Cross.”
    H. Richard Niebuhr, The Kingdom of God in America

    “The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him.” — Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is Within You
    (1894).


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    Phat
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    Message 302 of 380 (897711)
    09-10-2022 12:14 PM
    Reply to: Message 300 by Theodoric
    09-10-2022 11:03 AM


    Re: Cool. Something Sorta Good.
    Humans cant get along now. How would we get along then after such an event?

    "A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain "
    ***
    “…far from science having buried God, not only do the results of science point towards his existence, but the scientific enterprise itself is validated by his existence.”- Dr.John Lennox

    “A God without wrath brought men without sin into a Kingdom without judgment through the ministrations of a Christ without a Cross.”
    H. Richard Niebuhr, The Kingdom of God in America

    “The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him.” — Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is Within You
    (1894).


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    Tangle
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    Message 303 of 380 (897712)
    09-10-2022 1:11 PM


    Doom! Doom! We're all Doomed!
    Give it a rest.

    Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London. Olen Suomi Soy Barcelona. I am Ukraine.

    "Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
    Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
    - Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.


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    Phat
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    Message 304 of 380 (897717)
    09-10-2022 1:34 PM
    Reply to: Message 303 by Tangle
    09-10-2022 1:11 PM


    Giving Doom A Rest
    Tangle writes:
    Doom! Doom! We're all Doomed!

    Give it a rest.
    The issue is are we ready? Doom is inevitable. Death and Taxes are inevitable, but we usually give them a rest when we can.
    I suppose you would encourage me to drop the Bronze Age "superstitions and mythos", get on board the Humanist bandwagon, and go to infinity and beyond!

    "A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain "
    ***
    “…far from science having buried God, not only do the results of science point towards his existence, but the scientific enterprise itself is validated by his existence.”- Dr.John Lennox

    “A God without wrath brought men without sin into a Kingdom without judgment through the ministrations of a Christ without a Cross.”
    H. Richard Niebuhr, The Kingdom of God in America

    “The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him.” — Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is Within You
    (1894).


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    Tanypteryx
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    Message 305 of 380 (897721)
    09-10-2022 1:52 PM
    Reply to: Message 304 by Phat
    09-10-2022 1:34 PM


    Re: Giving Doom A Rest
    Phat writes:
    Tangle writes:
    Doom! Doom! We're all Doomed!

    Give it a rest.

    The issue is are we ready? Doom is inevitable.
    No, the issue is WHY THE FUCK DO YOU HAVE TO POST YOUR STUPID CRAP IN A THREAD THAT IS SPECIFICALLY SET UP TO TALK ABOUT COOL SCIENCE STUFF?
    Go fuck yourself you pathetic little prick!

    Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!

    What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python

    One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie

    If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

    The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq


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    Phat
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    Message 306 of 380 (897722)
    09-10-2022 1:55 PM
    Reply to: Message 305 by Tanypteryx
    09-10-2022 1:52 PM


    Re: Giving Doom A Rest
    My! the bugman seems to have a demon. Wonder if its a dragon or a damsel?
    Add by Edit: This topic is in the Coffee House! What...you don't sit at the same table with moderate/conservatives? You will go extinct long before your dragonflies do.

    "A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain "
    ***
    “…far from science having buried God, not only do the results of science point towards his existence, but the scientific enterprise itself is validated by his existence.”- Dr.John Lennox

    “A God without wrath brought men without sin into a Kingdom without judgment through the ministrations of a Christ without a Cross.”
    H. Richard Niebuhr, The Kingdom of God in America

    “The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him.” — Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is Within You
    (1894).


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    Tanypteryx
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    Message 307 of 380 (897723)
    09-10-2022 1:58 PM
    Reply to: Message 306 by Phat
    09-10-2022 1:55 PM


    Re: Giving Doom A Rest
    You just have to smear your crap everywhere don't you?

    Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!

    What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python

    One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie

    If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

    The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq


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    Phat
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    Message 308 of 380 (897724)
    09-10-2022 2:00 PM
    Reply to: Message 307 by Tanypteryx
    09-10-2022 1:58 PM


    Re: Giving Doom A Rest
    the question I ask is why are you so angry this morning? Do I ever care if you comment in whatever thread you like? No. Do I annoy you that much?

    "A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain "
    ***
    “…far from science having buried God, not only do the results of science point towards his existence, but the scientific enterprise itself is validated by his existence.”- Dr.John Lennox

    “A God without wrath brought men without sin into a Kingdom without judgment through the ministrations of a Christ without a Cross.”
    H. Richard Niebuhr, The Kingdom of God in America

    “The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him.” — Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is Within You
    (1894).


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    Phat
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    Message 309 of 380 (897725)
    09-10-2022 2:03 PM
    Reply to: Message 294 by Tanypteryx
    08-02-2022 1:08 PM


    Re: JWST Captures Stellar Gymnastics in The Cartwheel Galaxy
    OK, I'm sorry. The James Webb Space Telescope images are pretty cool!

    "A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain "
    ***
    “…far from science having buried God, not only do the results of science point towards his existence, but the scientific enterprise itself is validated by his existence.”- Dr.John Lennox

    “A God without wrath brought men without sin into a Kingdom without judgment through the ministrations of a Christ without a Cross.”
    H. Richard Niebuhr, The Kingdom of God in America

    “The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him.” — Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is Within You
    (1894).


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    Theodoric
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    Message 310 of 380 (897741)
    09-10-2022 4:33 PM
    Reply to: Message 305 by Tanypteryx
    09-10-2022 1:52 PM


    Re: Giving Doom A Rest
    Because all he is is a troll.

    What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens

    Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

    "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

    If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?


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    Tangle
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    Message 311 of 380 (897744)
    09-10-2022 4:42 PM
    Reply to: Message 304 by Phat
    09-10-2022 1:34 PM


    Re: Giving Doom A Rest
    Phat writes:
    The issue is are we ready?
    The issue is that you're a religious crack-pot desperate for the world to end.
    Doom is inevitable. Death and Taxes are inevitable, but we usually give them a rest when we can.
    So write your will and get on with life you bell-end.
    I suppose you would encourage me to drop the Bronze Age "superstitions and mythos", get on board the Humanist bandwagon, and go to infinity and beyond!
    I'd encourage you to just enjoy this life why you have it.

    Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London. Olen Suomi Soy Barcelona. I am Ukraine.

    "Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
    Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
    - Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.


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    ringo
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    Message 312 of 380 (897753)
    09-10-2022 10:19 PM
    Reply to: Message 301 by Phat
    09-10-2022 12:08 PM


    Re: Cool. Something Sorta Good.
    Phat writes:
    If we don't reach out and help each other now, we certainly wont once resources are drastically altered.
    How can you say that and still support the right wing?

    "Oh no, They've gone and named my home St. Petersburg.
    What's going on? Where are all the friends I had?
    It's all wrong, I'm feeling lost like I just don't belong.
    Give me back, give me back my Leningrad."
    -- Leningrad Cowboys

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    AZPaul3
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    Message 313 of 380 (897757)
    09-11-2022 7:18 AM
    Reply to: Message 303 by Tangle
    09-10-2022 1:11 PM


    Doom! Doom! We're all Doomed!

    Give it a rest.
    Doom can never rest until the prophesies are fulfilled. Until the food fails, the wars win and the last human expires. What good is rest when jungle and hungry hunters are all around you?
    Even from above there is impending doom for humanity. Big honking space rocks the size of Montana that would scramble the insides of this planet like an egg. Laser blasts from gamma-ray bursts that incinerate half the planet instantly, leaving the other half to slowly smoulder. Doom of the fieriest kind.
    The doom of the coal-fired furnace, the gas-fired plant, the gas guzzler SUV idling stuck in traffic. The hunters stalk the jungle eating relentlessly at the very eco-fabric that sustains us. Doom awaits us at every turn.
    The tipping points have been reached; the nest irrevocably poisoned.
    Have I mentioned we’re doomed?

    Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!

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    Tanypteryx
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    Message 314 of 380 (899454)
    10-14-2022 12:14 AM


    Off on a road trip to Utah
    The wife and I are heading out tomorrow on a road trip to the Provo area of Utah to visit here brother who has just been diagnosed with lung cancer. I'm hoping to get a chance to shoot photos and also collect some dragonfly eggs to rear out over the winter.

    Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!

    What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python

    One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie

    If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

    The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq


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    vimesey
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    Message 315 of 380 (899458)
    10-14-2022 6:04 AM
    Reply to: Message 314 by Tanypteryx
    10-14-2022 12:14 AM


    Re: Off on a road trip to Utah
    Sorry to hear that mate - I hope they've caught it early enough to be able to treat it. Fingers crossed for you and your wife and family.

    Could there be any greater conceit, than for someone to believe that the universe has to be simple enough for them to be able to understand it ?

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