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Theodoric
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Message 406 of 473 (911465)
07-07-2023 11:21 AM
Reply to: Message 405 by Percy
07-07-2023 9:50 AM


Re: Run, Forest, Run
But Phat does not care about that. He cares only about himself and what the Youtube people tell him to care about. F everyone else.
As long as there is someone he perceives to be lower on the pecking order(not white, not christian, non english speaking) he is content.

What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?


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Phat
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Message 407 of 473 (911466)
07-07-2023 2:53 PM
Reply to: Message 406 by Theodoric
07-07-2023 11:21 AM


It all ties in with the next leader after Biden.
Since you seem to define a pecking order at all, I would opine that your idea of a pecking order would place white straight males at the very bottom. You also have low regard for anything labeled "Christian" since you have no idea what it means.(If you did you would realize that I know I fall short) You yourself wouldn't even sacrifice for your own offspring IF they could sponge off of Uncle Sam.
I'm guessing that you believe that the United States owes the world some sort of reparation.
But what do I know? I'm a vile, disgusting human being.
Add by edit:
Theo writes:
Do the Rethugs support anyone but the rich?
Is it a crime to be successful? Does the guy on the block with the most money owe it to the block to fix the street and feed everyone? The only reason I pick back at you guys is because you hate the rich. To me, the way I grew up, being affluent was the essence of the American Dream.
To be honest, I've squandered a lot of money and am nearly poor.Maybe that's why im bitter and vile. Maybe I think I ought to be rich and am frustrated that I'm not. Then when you guys come along and advocate paying to help those less fortunate than I, (homeless) I get mad because I see so many people steal. My friend claims that i'm envious because I perceive them getting something for nothing and I feel cheated (as a gambling addict) because I never did.
For the record, I DO feel like crap sometimes and all I get out of the peanut gallery is "cry harder, snowflake".

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xongsmith
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Message 408 of 473 (911467)
07-07-2023 3:07 PM
Reply to: Message 407 by Phat
07-07-2023 2:53 PM


Re: reparation. Re: Run, Forest, Run
Phat pharts:
Since you seem to define a pecking order at all
Where did you go when people were supposed to learn how to read?
It's as if your parents never read to you as a child. Makes me feel so sorry for you.

"I'm the Grim Reaper now, Mitch. Step aside."
Death to #TzarVladimirtheCondemned!
Enjoy every sandwich!

- xongsmith, 5.7dawkins scale


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Phat
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Message 409 of 473 (911468)
07-07-2023 3:14 PM
Reply to: Message 408 by xongsmith
07-07-2023 3:07 PM


Phat pharts
I used to be one of the best readers in elementary school. Dont anyone feel sorry for me...I had many opportunities in life that others have never had. In many ways Ive failed since then and in many ways it was all my own fault.
I wonder why I am so selfish. It keeps me from being a good Christian.
I don't expect sympathy but I also feel i'm not deserving of scorn and contempt.

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xongsmith
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Message 410 of 473 (911469)
07-07-2023 4:14 PM
Reply to: Message 409 by Phat
07-07-2023 3:14 PM


Re: Phat pharts
Phat admits:
I wonder why I am so selfish. It keeps me from being a good Christian.
Nobody can be a good Christian - it's too high a bar.
We shouldn't beat ourselves up about it - or others.
Sorry I got my dander up, but Theodoric was "seemingly" being attacked.

"I'm the Grim Reaper now, Mitch. Step aside."
Death to #TzarVladimirtheCondemned!
Enjoy every sandwich!

- xongsmith, 5.7dawkins scale


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Theodoric
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Message 411 of 473 (911470)
07-07-2023 4:55 PM
Reply to: Message 407 by Phat
07-07-2023 2:53 PM


Re: It all ties in with the next leader after Biden.
Since you seem to define a pecking order at all,
No idea what this is supposed to mean.
I would opine that your idea of a pecking order would place white straight males at the very bottom.
And you would be wrong. Still. Again.
I do not believe in the pecking order view of society. That is a right-wing, libertarian view.
Most of my family, even my wife, are Christians. Most of them do not hate or blame other people or live a pecking order. People like you make Christian a bad thing.
You yourself wouldn't even sacrifice for your own offspring IF they could sponge off of Uncle Sam.
Fuck you. You know nothing about me. My wife and I work very hard to give our kids a better life than we had growing up. I was not a child of privilege like you. My parents worked hard to give me the tools to have a better life than them. I have used those tools to pass it on. I have no biological children but I have two adopted sons and a couple others that I consider my children. So again go fuck yourself.
I'm guessing that you believe that the United States owes the world some sort of reparation.
The US needs to own up and take responsibility for fixing things they fucked up. Not sure if reparations are the answer. Acknowledgment is a good start. Eliminating colonies and second-class citizenship is a start.
Is it a crime to be successful?
There you go with the strawman. Do you think people are successful independent of society as a whole? They can not be successful without the systems in place provided by the government and society. Since they have taken the most from government and society they should pay the most to fix roads and feed people.
To me, the way I grew up, being affluent was the essence of the American Dream.
One of the differences between your view of the American Dream and mine is that you are ok with stepping on and shitting on people to get there. In my view of the American Dream, it is to bring as many people along with me. Without the people I know and love or people that need a hand it is not a dream but a nightmare.
To be honest, I've squandered a lot of money and am nearly poor.Maybe that's why im bitter and vile. Maybe I think I ought to be rich and am frustrated that I'm not. Then when you guys come along and advocate paying to help those less fortunate than I, (homeless) I get mad because I see so many people steal. My friend claims that i'm envious because I perceive them getting something for nothing and I feel cheated (as a gambling addict) because I never did.
A good person would feel empathy. You are bitter and vile. So it seems you are not a good person.
Oh yeah, cry harder snowflake and did I say fuck you.

What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?


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nwr
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Message 412 of 473 (911471)
07-07-2023 5:05 PM
Reply to: Message 407 by Phat
07-07-2023 2:53 PM


Re: It all ties in with the next leader after Biden.
Phat in Message 407 writes:
Since you seem to define a pecking order at all, I would opine that your idea of a pecking order would place white straight males at the very bottom.
I don't have a pecking order. I take seriously the view that "all men are created equal".
Is it a crime to be successful?
No. But, from my perspective, you have not been particularly successful. The republicans despise people like you, except that they want your votes.
The only reason I pick back at you guys is because you hate the rich.
I don't hate the rich. However, I have no love for thieves or tax cheats. There are actually rich people who are not thieves or tax cheats, but they aren't the ones who control the current version of the Republican party.
To be honest, I've squandered a lot of money and am nearly poor.
Yes, we see that from your posts. The Republicans see you as one of the undeserving poor. They would like to take away your social security and medicare.
I get mad because I see so many people steal.
Some of us see a difference between poor people stealing to survive, and rich people stealing to get even richer. You see the poor people stealing, but you don't even notice the rich people stealing.
... and all I get out of the peanut gallery is "cry harder, snowflake".
Nobody here is saying that. At most we are trying to wake you up and to persuade you to stop stabbing yourself in the back.

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Tanypteryx
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Message 413 of 473 (911472)
07-07-2023 6:27 PM
Reply to: Message 407 by Phat
07-07-2023 2:53 PM


Re: It all ties in with the next leader after Biden.
Phat in Message 407 writes:
Is it a crime to be successful?
Only if you committed crimes to become successful.
Phat in Message 407 writes:
The only reason I pick back at you guys is because you hate the rich.
You seem to be the prime hater around here. What I hate is rich people gaming the system so they never have to pay their fair share for the benefits that they game the system to reserve for themselves, at the cost of the rest of us.
Phat in Message 407 writes:
I'm guessing that you believe that the United States owes the world some sort of reparation.
None of us have to guess that you don't think the United States should hold itself accountable for the mistakes our government and society have made.
Phat in Message 407 writes:
For the record, I DO feel like crap sometimes and all I get out of the peanut gallery is "cry harder, snowflake".
We can all feel your fear and hatred.

Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!
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Percy
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Message 414 of 473 (911473)
07-07-2023 9:06 PM
Reply to: Message 407 by Phat
07-07-2023 2:53 PM


Re: It all ties in with the next leader after Biden.
I only have time to note one thing about your post. You're not replying to much that anyone here says. You're mostly responding to what your echo chamber claims they say.
For example, people here don't hate the rich. They hate when government gives the rich special treatment, the group that least needs it, but also the group most able to influence politicians, which they're not happy about, either.
--Percy

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Theodoric
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Message 415 of 473 (911474)
07-07-2023 9:17 PM
Reply to: Message 409 by Phat
07-07-2023 3:14 PM


Re: Phat pharts
So you peaked in elementary school. Not surprised. I warn my boys not to peak in middle school. So far so good. 11th grader continues to grow each year. 8th grader shows continued maturity and ability each year. I turn 61 next week, too old for this but love every minute of watching them grow up.

What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?


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marc9000
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Message 416 of 473 (911555)
07-14-2023 10:59 PM
Reply to: Message 383 by AZPaul3
07-04-2023 1:51 PM


Re: Run, Forest, Run
If Biden dies before the nomination is set, Kamala, the heir apparent, appears to be the only thing the dems have going and my tea leaves say that is a loss.
"If Biden dies", not much if any talk from notable political commentators about one little historical fact; The U.S. has had 8 presidents die in office, 4 from natural causes, 4 by assassination. Every time, the voters selected their vice president, or another person of the same party to be their successor. People have a natural tendency to be sympathetic towards the party of a president who dies in office, and it's understandable. Anyone can see that Biden has a better chance of dying in office than most past presidents. The Dems are in the drivers seat if that happens, and it's one of the reasons he's so protected and defended by the news media, the FBI, the DOJ etc.
You may now cut loose with the vulgar name calling.

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Message 417 of 473 (911557)
07-15-2023 12:07 AM
Reply to: Message 416 by marc9000
07-14-2023 10:59 PM


Re: Run, Forest, Run
You may now cut loose with the vulgar name calling.
OK, consider your name vulgarly called.
Now, what is your assessment of the evil insurgent Republican side?
While I almost agree with your views here, the real reason Biden is so protected and defended by the news media, the FBI, the DOJ etc., is because he is president of the united states which means thousands of crazy people want to kill him. No reason necessary.
So, back to the Dark Side. Can Trump coast to a nomination or will DeSantis make some waves?

Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!

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Percy
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Message 418 of 473 (911561)
07-15-2023 11:00 AM
Reply to: Message 416 by marc9000
07-14-2023 10:59 PM


Re: Run, Forest, Run
marc9000 writes:
The Dems are in the drivers seat if that happens, and it's one of the reasons he's so protected and defended by the news media,...
The Washington Post is a liberal news outlet in both leadership and editorial outlook. Here are articles, editorials and columns with Biden's name in the headline over the past two weeks:
You can look through this and describe which ones are protecting and defending Biden and how they're doing it.
...the FBI,...
How is the FBI under the leadership of conservative Trump appointee Christopher Wray protecting and defending Biden?
...the DOJ etc.
How is the DOJ protecting and defending Biden, especially given the absence of the constant berating we saw under Trump of the DOJ not protecting and defending him enough.
--Percy

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marc9000
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Message 419 of 473 (911569)
07-15-2023 9:34 PM
Reply to: Message 417 by AZPaul3
07-15-2023 12:07 AM


Re: Run, Forest, Run
While I almost agree with your views here, the real reason Biden is so protected and defended by the news media, the FBI, the DOJ etc., is because he is president of the united states which means thousands of crazy people want to kill him. No reason necessary.
I wasn't referring to physical protection, I meant protection from investigation, protection from most questioning about his and his family's past and present corruption. Trump is much more likely to be assassinated, considering all the hate that has been drummed up against him by all branches of the political left.
So, back to the Dark Side. Can Trump coast to a nomination or will DeSantis make some waves?
Short of any major unforeseen changes, Trump will have it. Recent polls show that his popularity actually goes up whenever a new witch hunt against him is all over the news, be it about yet another woman he knew 40 years ago coming forward, to the "tremendous national security hazard of the documents that were stored at Mara-Lago", while nothing is said about Biden's garage's security.
Most of the other Republican candidates are really solid, I wouldn't mind seeing one of them beating Trump, - DeSantis, Scott, Elder. Pence is a wimp. Christie the RINO is just a Democrat plant, pretty easy for me to see that most, if not all of his campaign is funded by the Democrat party, and his only job is to hammer on Trump. I think that will backfire too, he's not likeable. It will help Trump. I'd like to see Trump pick Tim Scott as his running mate. Scott would then be good for 2028.
Ramaswamy is really good, but he has a goofy name, don't think we'll ever have a president Ramaswamy. An unfortunate characteristic of human nature, but that's the way it is. Same with crackly voice RFK junior. Every time he talks it sounds like he's about to cry. No chance, he can't make speeches that would impress many Americans, let alone foreign leaders. He'd get laughed at as much as Biden does now!

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marc9000
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Message 420 of 473 (911570)
07-15-2023 10:14 PM
Reply to: Message 418 by Percy
07-15-2023 11:00 AM


Re: Run, Forest, Run
You can look through this and describe which ones are protecting and defending Biden and how they're doing it
How ya doin Percy, white power.
I don't really understand your point, most of those headlines aren't derogatory towards Biden. I'd like to see that list alongside of headlines containing the word "Trump" by the Washington post, over any period of time in the past 7 years for comparison, but you'd have to find that for me, I don't do the WP, not giving them my email address. Besides, I have enough trouble keeping my stomach contents down trying to keep up with the jaw-dropping news omissions and distortions of ABC World News Tonight.
How is the FBI under the leadership of conservative Trump appointee Christopher Wray protecting and defending Biden?
Christopher Wray is no longer conservative. Several prominent people in politics have done 180's, almost always because of the way the money flows. Joe Scarborough made about $135,000 as a VERY conservative Republican Florida congressman in the 1990's. Now he makes $6 million per year as a liberal pundit. Former Clinton advisor Dick Morris went the other way, he now writes for the NY Post. It happens, different people have a harder time than others understanding these 180 degree flip flops, but few can deny they are real. 2 + years into the current Democrat administration, who knows how Wray's income has changed, not only in the amount, but where it comes from.
How is the DOJ protecting and defending Biden, especially given the absence of the constant berating we saw under Trump of the DOJ not protecting and defending him enough.

How DOJ protected Hunter Biden and his father - Washington Times
Cocaine found in the White House, case closed, don't know who did it, don't care. The James Comer investigations, almost completely covered up in the mainstream news. It goes on and on, Biden is well covered for, he knows he can laugh and walk away when asked questions.
By the way, I'm only back after a 3 month absence because of an email notification of a recent response to one of my messages. Couldn't resist a little more battle, but I'm about done for awhile again. Not as fun as it used to be.

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