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Tanypteryx
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Message 571 of 610 (906326)
02-10-2023 12:22 PM
Reply to: Message 569 by Porkncheese
02-10-2023 1:07 AM


Re: Suffer
But to the animals who were calling for the discrimination of the unvaxed when we did nothing wrong, i say EAT MY FAT DICK
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Boastful, wishful delusions.

Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python

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Message 572 of 610 (906327)
02-10-2023 12:28 PM
Reply to: Message 569 by Porkncheese
02-10-2023 1:07 AM


Re: Suffer
Porkncheese writes:
But to the animals who were calling...
Animals don't do politics.
Porkncheese writes:
... for the discrimination of the unvaxed...
Calling people "animals" would be YOU discriminating.

Come all of you cowboys all over this land,
I'll teach you the law of the Ranger's Command:
To hold a six shooter, and never to run
As long as there's bullets in both of your guns.
-- Woody Guthrie

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Message 573 of 610 (906329)
02-10-2023 1:02 PM
Reply to: Message 569 by Porkncheese
02-10-2023 1:07 AM


Re: Suffer
I'll continue to fart in your general direction....

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Message 574 of 610 (907233)
02-21-2023 8:55 AM


Covid-19 Vaccination Associated with Health Benefits
The article COVID-19 vaccination associated with fewer heart attacks, strokes, and other cardiovascular issues in Medical News | Medical Articles reports on a research letter describing a study that resulted in these findings. An excerpt from the letter:
quote:
"We sought to clarify the impact of previous vaccination on cardiovascular events among people who develop COVID-19 and found that, particularly among those with comorbidities, such as previous MACE, type 2 diabetes, high cholesterol, liver disease, and obesity, there is an association with a lower risk of complications. While we cannot attribute causality, it is supportive evidence that vaccination may have beneficial effects on a variety of post-COVID-19 complications."
And a quote from one of the authors:
quote:
"To our surprise, even partial vaccination was associated with lower risk of adverse cardiovascular events. Given the magnitude of SARS-CoV-2 infection worldwide, we hope our findings could help improve vaccination rates, especially in individuals with coexisting conditions."
  —Joy Jiang
The letter itself can be found here, but it is locked: Impact of Vaccination on Major Adverse Cardiovascular Events in Patients With COVID-19 Infection
--Percy

  
Porkncheese
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Message 575 of 610 (907998)
03-04-2023 9:09 PM


Excess deaths across the west
Across the west we're seeing a massive increase of deaths.
Even in 2022 when covid deaths were low we still see people dying at a higher rate than before... Young vaccinated people
To put things into perspective WW2 produced a 3% increase in overall deaths. WW1 produced a 5% increase.
We are seeing huge increases in death world wide at a catastrophic scale with over 20 million excess deaths not attributed to covid.
Why are these deaths happening?
Silence from our governments. Silence from our media.
Why?
Should this not be investigated?

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AZPaul3
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Message 576 of 610 (907999)
03-04-2023 9:37 PM
Reply to: Message 575 by Porkncheese
03-04-2023 9:09 PM


Re: Excess deaths across the west
Should this not be investigated?
What, spend time and money on a right-wing wet dream?

Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!

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Minnemooseus
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Message 577 of 610 (908002)
03-04-2023 10:17 PM
Reply to: Message 575 by Porkncheese
03-04-2023 9:09 PM


Re: Excess deaths across the west
Should this not be investigated?
Well, you could give us a link to the article(s) those graphs come from (something more than an image dump site).
Moose
Added by edit:
Even in 2022 when covid deaths were low we still see people dying at a higher rate than before... Young vaccinated people
What makes you think that? Why not young unvaccinated people? Or unvaccinated people in general.

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Tanypteryx
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Message 578 of 610 (908003)
03-04-2023 11:03 PM
Reply to: Message 576 by AZPaul3
03-04-2023 9:37 PM


Re: Excess deaths across the west
AZ writes:
Should this not be investigated?
What, spend time and money on a right-wing wet dream?
He does his own research. The bodies are piling up everywhere! Tens of thousands of refrigerator trucks for morgues.

Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python

One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie

If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq


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Percy
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Message 579 of 610 (908023)
03-05-2023 10:53 AM


Origination of Data
Porkncheese's data originated at Our World in Data, but he likely picked up his images somewhere else. If you visit that site now you'll see more recent data:
And for Canada:
I have no idea what he's on about. The current numbers are almost the lowest they've been since the pandemic started, and it's no mystery that covid continues and is responsible.
--Percy

  
Porkncheese
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Message 580 of 610 (908047)
03-06-2023 12:05 AM
Reply to: Message 575 by Porkncheese
03-04-2023 9:09 PM


Re: Excess deaths across the west
From North America where we saw deaths well up on average lets go and have a look at the data from the UK
England and Wales
Scotland
Ireland
Its the same story there. Alarmingly high death rates.
Yet not a word from our politicians or trusted mainstream media.
A deafening Damar Hamlin like silence uhhhh

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AZPaul3
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Message 581 of 610 (908048)
03-06-2023 12:49 AM
Reply to: Message 580 by Porkncheese
03-06-2023 12:05 AM


Re: Excess deaths across the west
Yet not a word from our politicians or trusted mainstream media.
The deafening silence on this fake issue is welcoming.
And Damar has been anything but silent. He's been to every school in Buffalo to inspire, all while trying to work his intense comeback routine.
Is there any tragedy of human life that you will not try to twist and exploit for your perverse purposes?

Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!

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Tanypteryx
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Message 582 of 610 (908049)
03-06-2023 1:33 AM
Reply to: Message 580 by Porkncheese
03-06-2023 12:05 AM


Re: Excess deaths across the west
Yet not a word from our politicians or trusted mainstream media.
You are daft. The mainstream media is incapable of suppressing stories. One thing anyone who watches the mainstream media knows, because it is so freaking obvious, is they over report every single fucking story. Everyone with a cellphone is carrying a high quality video camera and all the media networks are continuously searching data sources and watching each other, looking for hints of a story.
So, you know about this story, that there are millions of excess, unexplained deaths, but the mainstream media refuses to tell THAT STORY? THAT FAT JUICY STORY?
I don't think you have a firm grasp of what the mainstream media is in 2023.

Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python

One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie

If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq


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Message 583 of 610 (908052)
03-06-2023 3:37 AM


There are excess deaths around the world compared to pre-COVID. Here in the UK it's well known and reported on. But it's nothing anybody is blaming on vaccines. At least half of it is the fact that people are still dying from COVID, particularly the unvaccinated and elderly with co-morbidities.
Long COVID is also causing problems, cardiovascular deaths are occurring months after infection - particularly in the elderly. Our health services themselves are under huge stress trying to catch up with operations and treatments for 'normal' diseases that could not be dealt with during COVID itself. That's probably most of it but there's still some questions.
This is what the British Medical Journal is saying about it.
What is driving excess deaths in England and Wales? | The BMJ

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Message 584 of 610 (908054)
03-06-2023 11:20 AM
Reply to: Message 569 by Porkncheese
02-10-2023 1:07 AM


Re: Suffer
FAT DICK writes:
We're still standing strong
Unlike the elderly and immunocompromised folks you sent to a lonely, ICU death by strutting your viral load.
We didn't know much about the course of covid-19 -- but we knew the elderly were at great risk, and that the healthy nonelderly would likely survive.
Masks and social isolation were intended to slow the rate of transmission. Thus hospitals could be protected against being overwhelmed by sheer numbers, and a vaccine could be developed to protect the most susceptible from death.
It wasn't about you, standing strong on a heap of corpses.

"If you can keep your head while those around you are losing theirs, you can collect a lot of heads."

Homo sum, humani nihil a me alienum puto.
-Terence


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Porkncheese
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Message 585 of 610 (908074)
03-06-2023 10:26 PM
Reply to: Message 580 by Porkncheese
03-06-2023 12:05 AM


Re: Excess deaths across the west
Now lets look at some of the highest vaccinated European countries.
Germany
France
Denmark
Its understandable to see higher deaths in 2020 due to covid.
But once the covid injections started being given out in 2021 we should see these deaths drop back down to normality.
Instead we see a continuation of high death rates and some even higher now.
This catastrophic rise in deaths merits investigation. I wonder why none is being done...
Could it be a conflict of interests...
Of course its a blatant conflict of interests. They don't want to look at something that may give them unfavourable results.
Fact of the matter is that this is a horrible trend across the world and needs thorough unbias examination and we aren't seeing it.

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