Trump and Trump supporters keep using the Y2K Fallacy, and it is driving me crazy

I'd say your quite prone to that yourself. It's a drag to be caught doing it, which also may be a factor in you driving by infrequently. You're certainly welcome to show how unreliable EvC is.As for "social media", you said in Message 91

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If social media is how you keep yourself "informed"....

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to which I replied in Message 93

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It isn't.

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When I heard that there was fake news on Facebook, my first reaction was, "There's news on Facebook?"

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My second reaction was, "What kind of idiot would get his news from Facebook?"

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End of post.I was referring to Facebook and Facebook only, not EvC.

I wasn't able to trace back to where the disagreement began, so I'll just respond to this: I think the general consensus on fusion power has been the same for a long time, often ironically expressed as, "Fusion is the power of the future and always will be." Fusion has its enthusiastic proponents, and the possibility of cheap and clean power continues to fuel the construction of experimental reactors, but the general consensus on fusion as a power source within even our longterm engineering capabilities has been strong skepticism for a long time.If it were possible to take a one cubic millimeter sample of the sun's core, how would we contain it? That's analogous to the problem fusion scientists are trying to solve. I'll just assume that some actual scientists offered these odd predictions, but they were never the consensus.--Percy

Hurricane SandyIts storm surge hit New York City on October 29, flooding streets, tunnels and subway lines and cutting power in and around the city.

The source for this denier trope is an ABC show called "Earth 2100" that aired June 2, 2009. It wasn't a science paper or news report or documentary. It was a dramatization of the worst case scenarios of GW.It's from a scene describing someone working on sea barriers in New York in 2050. That's still almost 20 years away and not outside of the range of possibilities.

That may be all well and good but it hasn’t happened so the hype was staged to further a political agenda, scare governments into curbing our only real homegrown power sources, coal, oil and gas. Cheap, reliable with an already built infrastructure and enough to keep hitting the bottom line every quarter for decades yet to come.I know it’s hot in Phoenix today (41^oC) but it is also -66^oC at Amundsen-Scott Station and last time I checked both are part of this same world, this same globe, so, so much for “global” warming.

Yes. The events depicted in that made-for-TV docu-drama haven't happened yet. And neither did that show predict they would happen yet.If anything, it has been under-hyped. And the purpose of the warnings from the world of SCIENCE was to prevent the disasters we see happening today, as well as the ones we're sure to see in the future. Their agenda was and is preventing economic and human hardships.It's denial is a political agenda. It's acceptance is about rational thinking and compassion for future generations.Coal, gas, and oil are not cheap, when you consider the price we're paying and will be paying for the consequences of ignoring their trash for so long, even if you don't take dead people in your accounting.The temps today here, there, or anywhere are completely irrelevant. We're talking about decades-long trends in climate, not daily weather reports. How do you expect to argue about climate change without event knowing what climate is?

I just took some chicken out of my freezer to have for dinner. Guess what, it was frozen solid. So much for all this Global Warming nonsense!

Hey Genitals, You know you can help slow global warming by leaving your freezer open, right?

Done. And it's working, my kitchen is already 10 degrees colder! Your welcome.

Remember that GOP member of Congress (I forget specifically which one or in which chamber) who brought in a snowball from outside to refute all claims of Global Warming once and for all!I see parallels with creationists' ultimate "got-cha" refutation of evolution that totally disproves it once and for all: "Well if we evolved from monkeys, then why are there still monkeys?"OK, so if Global Warming is true, then why are there still snowballs? And ice cubes!?!Try to answer that if you can!

Inhofe from OK. US senator.Holding up a hamburger proving there is no hunger.

I figured it had to have been a senator. They tend to be far more divorced from reality, especially the Republicans.

Well, people can't be reasoned out of ideas they weren't reasoned into in the first place.

With all the endless volume on both FaceBook and EvC I'm sure some, perhaps even a lot of useful information comes through both of these. There's hardly any point in making an artificial distinction, FaceBook bad, EvC good, four legs good, two legs . . .But all this useful information just gets drowned out by the rest of the noise (that post of yours I'm responding to here is a perfect example!). I suppose in the long run more is better than less. If you have a limited number of "official" outlets that are "fact-checked" (by whom, exactly?) you're bound to get more of a Soviet than a Western outlook on life. So, I guess, Let a Hundred Flowers Bloom . . .Anyway, good luck with all that.

The prediction involved sea level rise that did not, in fact, happen. The prediction was not about storm surge. Storm surge has hit many times before Sandy (before New York was New York, even!) The Great Storm of 1693, for example, or the 1788 storm that left the Battery in ruins, or the Norfolk and Long Island Hurricane that flooded NY City up to Canal street in 1821, or the 1893 hurricane that washed away Hog Island, or the Long Island Express that hit in 1938.It's difficult to make predictions, especially about the future.