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Author Topic:   Do you really understand the mathematics of evolution?
Straggler
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Message 137 of 239 (877874)
06-22-2020 6:41 PM
Reply to: Message 136 by Kleinman
06-22-2020 5:55 PM


Re: Does competition accelerate DNA evolution?
Can you give an example of a well specified question, answerable with a simulation, where your model and the scientifically accepted model would give different results?
The two simulations could then be tested to see which one more accurately reflects observable reality.

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Straggler
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Message 139 of 239 (877878)
06-22-2020 8:12 PM
Reply to: Message 138 by Kleinman
06-22-2020 7:31 PM


Re: Does competition accelerate DNA evolution?
And this model of yours will effectively refute evolutionary notions of common ancestry between species on Earth?
That’s Nobel prize winning stuff.....
The discussion I saw to which you seemed to have no answer was this one.
Kleinman: Four Questions About Evolution - #5 by swamidass - Peaceful Science
What happened there?

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Message 165 of 239 (878178)
06-26-2020 4:13 PM
Reply to: Message 140 by Kleinman
06-22-2020 9:01 PM


Re: Does competition accelerate DNA evolution?
You are either due a Nobel prize for revolutionising the whole of biology. Or you are a crackpot.
If I had to put money on which of those two is more probable....
Well - You are the probability whiz - You tell me - Which is more likely?

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Straggler
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Message 173 of 239 (878192)
06-26-2020 7:03 PM
Reply to: Message 166 by Kleinman
06-26-2020 4:30 PM


Re: Does competition accelerate DNA evolution?
In purely objective mathematical statistical terms which is more probable:
A) You are correct and on the verge of overthrowing one of the most established scientific theories ever conceived thus demanding that all the multiple strands of evidence and discoveries supporting that theory be revisited and alternate explanations (which you are unable to provide as - I quote - not my job) be found.
OR
B) Your mathematical model doesn’t accurately model evolution as it actually occurs.
You are the stats whizz. You tell me objecively speaking which is more likely?

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Straggler
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Message 175 of 239 (878203)
06-27-2020 5:48 AM
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06-26-2020 7:10 PM


Re: Does competition accelerate DNA evolution?
Have it your way.
Objectively speaking which is more probable?
And can't you tell a fish story when you hear one?
I know cod science when I see it...
(Ba ba boom)

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Straggler
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Message 195 of 239 (878410)
06-29-2020 6:19 PM
Reply to: Message 193 by Kleinman
06-29-2020 4:54 PM


Re: An important note regarding models of evolution
Are you still here?
Shouldn’t you be lapping up the adulation of the scientific community and preparing your Nobel acceptance speech?
I mean you have single handedly and indisputably falsified one of the most accepted and respected scientific theories of all time. The underpinning concept of all biology. You. Standing on the shoulders of giants. The Newton of biology. The Newton of our time.
As much as I enjoy basking in your gloriousness and as honoured as we all are by your benevolent presence oh great one, I have to ask - Why are you posting here rather than revoloutionising the whole of biology with your flawless and paradigm-shifting proof that descent from common ancestry is a physical impossibility?
Why have you chosen us to spread the word rather than - oh I dunno - The biological research community (for example)?

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