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Author | Topic: the big lie: evolution, the beasts: darwin, hitler and nero. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
ringo Member (Idle past 669 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
buddy you (all) are searching for the truth? no? i say the truth, and you don't let me
If what you're saying is the truth, then no, nobody here is searching for that."I'm Fallen and I can't get up!"
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ringo Member (Idle past 669 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Phat writes:
Sure it does. The evidence shows that it doesn't make any difference whether there is a God or not - and that people who claim to be "in communion" with God are no more enlightened than anybody else.
You rely entirely on evidence. Which works ok for the age of the earth and origin of species, but not for the idea that God exists and is in communion with humanity... Phat writes:
That's just another copout. You who do want it are deriving no noticeable effect from it. ... should we want it."I'm Fallen and I can't get up!"
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ringo Member (Idle past 669 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
the evolution "gives" you permission to be "different in good" and i am not saying holy, above others.... evolution is pure satan
Evolution doesn't "give permission" for anything; it has nothing to do with right or wrong. Evolution is pure mechanical. It just does what works, like "rightie-tightie, leftie-loosie". Religion, on the other hand, gives you permission to do whatever (you think) your God tells you to do."I'm Fallen and I can't get up!"
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ringo Member (Idle past 669 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
theory of hitler is related with theory of darwin
Hitler believed that Jews were descended from apes but Aryans were created by God. He believed he was doing God's will by purifying the human race. "I'm Fallen and I can't get up!"
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ringo Member (Idle past 669 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
cristian_gavrilescu writes:
So when you say you are a Christian, you might actually be a satanist. satanists can say they are christians, read this"I'm Fallen and I can't get up!"
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ringo Member (Idle past 669 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined:
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Phat writes:
Then discuss them rationally. This is a discussion site, not your personal soapbox. If you can't back up what you say, keep it to yourself.
I have reason to believe that you are wrong in these assertions. Phat writes:
"Dogmatic reasoning" is an oxymoron. Dogma is by definition, without reason. There is so much that you don't understand about our dogmatic reasoning. And I do understand your "thinking" (which is also an exaggeration). Remember, I used to be where you are.
Phat writes:
It is unbelievable that anybody could use their head and come up with such hooey.
Either that or you think that you *do* understand yet find it unbelievable. Phat writes:
The evidence is you. The evidence shows that your "communion" has saddled you with an immense truckload of really, really stupid ideas.
ringo writes:
Oh? Show me this evidence. The evidence shows that it doesn't make any difference whether there is a God or not - and that people who claim to be "in communion" with God are no more enlightened than anybody else. Phat writes:
You have been asked many times to back up that "conclusion" and you've never been able to do it. I have observed different conclusions."I'm Fallen and I can't get up!"
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ringo Member (Idle past 669 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined:
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delighting yourself with expensive things is a lifestyle,
If you knew me, you'd be embarassed."I'm Fallen and I can't get up!"
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ringo Member (Idle past 669 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
cristian_gavrilescu writes:
Yes. Science is humble. when "science" search for an answer, they find 100 more questions Do you think you have all the answers?"I'm Fallen and I can't get up!"
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ringo Member (Idle past 669 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Phat writes:
Copout. I'm better at speaking than I am at writing, however."I'm Fallen and I can't get up!"
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ringo Member (Idle past 669 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined:
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Phat writes:
As I just said in another thread a minute ago, there are no magical "answers" floating around out there waiting to be discovered. Answers are the result of questions and questions are the result of human thinking. Do you think that the answers already exist and are simply waiting to be "discovered" by humanity or do you believe that as we learn we ourselves create the answers through critical thinking? (It doesn't have to be critical thinking. Critical thinking is just more likely to come up with better questions.)
Phat writes:
You should stop trying to tie my worldview (or anybody else's) up in a neat little package. Your answer will further explain your world view."I'm Fallen and I can't get up!"
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ringo Member (Idle past 669 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Phat writes:
I'm the one who upholds what Jesus said and you're the one who denies it. Remember?
...your line of reasoning limits what Jesus actually told the Disciples about His character... Phat writes:
Reality does limit Him to a character in a book. He has no other solid link to reality.
... and reframes the reality as limiting Jesus to a character in a book... Phat writes:
You're the one who cherry-picks from the Book when it suits you and scoffs at it when it doesn't.
... and irrelevant when it suits you... Phat writes:
I charge you with ignoring what's in the Book when you ignore what's in the Book. How can what suits me effect what you ignore?
... yet you have the audacity to charge me with ignoring what a character in a book says when it suits your argument. Phat writes:
Stop lying. I called bullshit on your claim that Christians are attacked more than any other religion. That is neither obvious nor even founded in fact.
Stop calling bullshit on what is patently obvious. Phat writes:
For fuck's sake, I HAVE considered it, as I have told you many times. I used to be where you are. By all appearances, I have considered it more carefully than you have.
You call my belief BS simply because you wont consider it. Phat writes:
Whatever you were doing last night has nothing to do with the fact that you deny what Jesus said. And yet you claim that I ignore what He said to do....if only you could see what we were doing last night....you would take back your claim."I'm Fallen and I can't get up!"
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ringo Member (Idle past 669 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Phat writes:
Have you ever heard of Jews? What evidence do you have that suggests otherwise?"I'm Fallen and I can't get up!"
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ringo Member (Idle past 669 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
dredge writes:
Or some (biological) alien may have tweaked a pre-existing (evolved) creature's DNA to make it sapient (in a process having nothing whatever to do with "souls"). Regarding the creation of Adam, please consider this possibility: God took the DNA (described as "dust/clay" in Genesis 2:7) of a pre-existing creature (a Homo sapien without a soul) and from it created Adam, after which God placed Adam in the Garden of Eden. separated from the rest of creation.This may have happened about 10,000 years ago, because that is about the time history records great advances in civilization and inventions ... "I've been to Moose Jaw, now I can die." -- John Wing
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