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Author Topic:   When did Republicans learn to hate Democrats more than Russia?
Taq
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Message 32 of 68 (867868)
12-04-2019 1:17 PM
Reply to: Message 2 by Faith
11-29-2019 5:58 PM


Faith writes:
That's a big *** Democrat lle,
Then why are Republicans repeating Russian propaganda? Why does Trump and his Republican cronies go out of their way to support Russia's interests?

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Message 40 of 68 (867887)
12-04-2019 3:21 PM
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12-04-2019 1:45 PM


Faith writes:
Support Russian interests?
Yes. First, they are repeating Russian propaganda meant to deflect blame for Russian interference in the 2016 elections, and put the blame on Ukraine. Russia is currently under sanctions for that interference, and they want them removed. Republicans are doing their dirty work when they repeat the propaganda meant to cover up their crimes.
The Trump administration is also pushing for Ukraine to settle with Russia, giving Russia Crimea and also ending the sanctions they are under for invading Crimea to begin with.
We also have troops being pulled out of Syria which has allowed Russian influence to increase in the region, even to the point of Russians taking over former US bases.
I could go on and on and on.
What Russian propaganda?
The Crowdstrike conspiracy theory, for one.
The Ukrainians DID interfere in the election for Hillary, it's not propaganda.
Where is the evidence?

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Message 43 of 68 (867908)
12-04-2019 6:20 PM
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12-04-2019 6:07 PM


Re: Weasel words, not justice
Faith writes:
Besides admitting that Trump had clearly said he did not want a quid pro quo,
Trump only said that after he was caught. It was clearly an attempt to cover his own butt.
all he wanted was for Zelensky to do the right thing,
False. Trump wanted Zelensky to do the wrong thing which was to corruptly announce a baseless investigation into Trump's political rivals for the express purpose of personally benefiting Trump. Trump asked Zelensky to participate in corruption.

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Message 62 of 68 (867961)
12-05-2019 11:11 AM
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12-04-2019 6:57 PM


Re: Weasel words, not justice
Faith writes:
We on the Right take it as simple truth, and since there is no evidence whatever of a quid pro quo our position seems the valid one.
We do have evidence of a quid pro quo. We have Trump's own staff stating clearly that there was a quid pro quo. Even Mulvaney stated that there was a quid pro quo live on television. He said to get over it.
Trump wanted only, all along, from the beginning, it's what he actually said in the phone call, that Zelensky would look into the corruptions in his own country that involved interference in our elections.
Trump asked Zelensky to investigate the Bidens. What in the world does that have to do with interference in our elections?
He later added they should look into the allegations concerning Biden's quid pro quo to fire a prosecutor who was looking into the company where his son worked, or he'd withhold billions in aid.
Trump would only need to look into our own records in the US to find the truth. Why didn't he? If Biden did something wrong, then why not start an investigation here in the US? We know why Trump didn't do this, because Biden didn't do anything wrong. Biden was following US policy and supporting national interests when he pushed for the firing of a corrupt Ukrainian prosecutor who was refusing to pursue investigations of corruption. Biden was fighting corruption in Ukraine with the support of the US government and the governments of our allies.
All Trump wanted was for Zelensky to get on TV and call Biden a criminal. Trump didn't care if an investigation actually went forward, he just wanted the sound bite.

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