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AZPaul3
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Message 9 of 15 (866972)
11-18-2019 9:43 AM
Reply to: Message 8 by Theodoric
11-18-2019 8:45 AM


Re: Disagree with the premise
Are you saying that facts are changeable(wanted to use fungible, but not sure if the word actually works here how I mean it, anyone care to pipe in on that)?
My kinda question were I can spout off without actually having to know anything.
You were right to begin with. Changeable works where fungible would not. You can't swap facts in and out (fungible) without changing the conclusions.
I think what Thug was getting at was that all conclusions are tentative and are dependant on the facts that lead to them. At least I hope that is what he was getting at. A fact cannot make a conclusion but a dozen or a hundred of them can lead us to one. And such conclusion is subject to change if new facts are found.
I also think Thug may be suggesting that because of the scientific requirement to consider all conclusions tentative that means we can never rely on any conclusions to determine anything about the reality of the world around us especially when it comes to gods.
He is neglecting confidence level. If we have a 5-sigma level of confidence in some conclusion then it doesn't matter that philosophically the conclusion is still said to be tentative, that conclusion is a rock solid reality of life. You can build satellites and smart phones, medicines and morals upon those foundations.

Eschew obfuscation. Habituate elucidation.

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