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Theodoric
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Message 901 of 906 (904968)
01-13-2023 11:43 AM
Reply to: Message 900 by ringo
01-13-2023 10:57 AM


Re: Gishing It Out With Ringo
I am always impressed when christofascists ignore their claims of their skydaddy's omniscience and omnipotence when it suits them.

What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?


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NosyNed
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Message 902 of 906 (904979)
01-13-2023 3:08 PM
Reply to: Message 896 by Phat
01-13-2023 8:51 AM


responsibility
Are you forgetting (or denying) that God has omniscience and knows all that will happen?

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Phat
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Message 903 of 906 (904982)
01-13-2023 3:14 PM
Reply to: Message 902 by NosyNed
01-13-2023 3:08 PM


Re: responsibility
Not at all. I was making a tongue-in-cheek comment that really accentuates the fact that God is never unaware of our behaviors. There is no place to hide.

The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him.” - Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is Within You (1894).
When both religious and non-religious people reach the same conclusions then you know religion isn't the reason.--Percy
Democrats should not be the only party. Respect the two-party system. -Phat, in December 2022
We see Monsters where Science shows us Windmills.~Phat, remixed

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Phat
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Message 904 of 906 (904984)
01-13-2023 3:16 PM
Reply to: Message 901 by Theodoric
01-13-2023 11:43 AM


Re: Gishing It Out With Ringo
Theo aka Ego writes:
I am always impressed when christofascists ignore their claims of their skydaddy's omniscience and omnipotence when it suits them.
Christofascists??
Can you define your new word for us? Whats good for the goose(step) is good for the gander!

The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him.” - Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is Within You (1894).
When both religious and non-religious people reach the same conclusions then you know religion isn't the reason.--Percy
Democrats should not be the only party. Respect the two-party system. -Phat, in December 2022
We see Monsters where Science shows us Windmills.~Phat, remixed

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Theodoric
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Message 905 of 906 (904985)
01-13-2023 3:19 PM
Reply to: Message 904 by Phat
01-13-2023 3:16 PM


Re: Gishing It Out With Ringo
I think you are capable of using google. Here is a hint. It has a wiki entry.
Unlike you, I know what words mean.

What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?


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Phat
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Message 906 of 906 (904986)
01-13-2023 3:49 PM
Reply to: Message 905 by Theodoric
01-13-2023 3:19 PM


Trading Words With Theo
I think you are capable of using google. Here is a hint. It has a wiki entry.
Actually, the Urban Dictionary entry hit the proverbial nail on the head!
Urban Dictionary writes:
Evangelical, semi-theocratical movement or temperment of Americans who stand against abortion, sexual education, homosexuality, science, anti-Zionism, and the separation of church and state.
Origins: In the mid-2000s, the Bush administration refined its broadly titled "War on Terror" campaign to the "Fight Against Islamofascism." This transfered the stigma of the 9/11 attacks and that carried by our enemies in the Middle East from tactics (e.g., terrorism) to policies (e.g., a Muslim caliphate). Since politically-active Evangelicals seek to at least partially theocratize America, the term "Christofascism" appeared to take advantage of the Republican rhetorical realignment.
One uses the term perjoratively when calling someone else a Christofascist. It inherently accuses its object of disloyalty to democracy; it attempts to evoke the feelings of hostility towards Middle Eastern terrorists and transfer them to Evangelicals.
When discussed generally, Christofascism is a bold label for political Evangelism but does not sling as much mud as the former usage.
Andrew: I believe that America was chosen to be God's nation, and that the Framers intended for there to be no separation of church and state.
James: Like every other Christofascist, Andrew, you want to replace our Constitution with the Bible.
Moderator: Jennifer, I know that you are working on behalf of the Socialist candidate, but I'm wondering what you expect will be the ground effort that Evangelical Republicans make this year on behalf of the Republican candidate's campaign?
Jennifer: The important thing to remember about Christofascism is that they only participate in party politics when they believe it will advance their specific agenda. If the Republican candidate only campaigns on the economy and national security, the Christofascists will not go the extra mile in terms of campaign support that they tend to go when the nominee talks about abortion, public prayer, and gay marriage.
I can't be that bad!

The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him.” - Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is Within You (1894).
When both religious and non-religious people reach the same conclusions then you know religion isn't the reason.--Percy
Democrats should not be the only party. Respect the two-party system. -Phat, in December 2022
We see Monsters where Science shows us Windmills.~Phat, remixed

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