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Trump won ![]() Suspended Member (Idle past 562 days) Posts: 1928 Joined: |
the priest spoke to my sensibilities and the Christ I believe in and worship. However, I was so messed up because of many factors, I merely soaked in his beautiful poetry about Listening to God and and loving yourself and how Christ is love.
he made everybody meditate on the gospel and other readings during mass i came up with an idea for a gospel-oriented novella. future is bright i guess i just wasn't expecting to talk to a "real" priest. this guy is cerebral, spent time thinking on Christ, and he dispenses the Sacrament of Confession how it's supposed to be done, which is odd and unusual. i don't know what to say or do. Confession as a sacrament of Loving Forgiveness, and I'm trying to understand how to grow my relationship to Christ. There's no plausible reason why I am still on this planet. My life was more fucked than most. Yet Christ has redeemed my life, and given me active purpose, he's a friend and God has purposefully chosen me. When Christ says he sifts among the riff-raff for his chosen, he's not kidding. The Holy Spirit dispensed the sacrament tonight. the human is a soul that can heal. evolutionary science negates the human soul, more important than fleshy shells we inhabit. i have experienced real healing from a religion that is considered primitive and pagan. Christ has taken me to a place of profound healing and negated the wounds of my past. i serve the servant God for eternity. you find happiness when you negate your ego and serve God. when you love yourself and love others as that too. when you become smaller than Paul God has made me great and I was not meant to be this great.
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Adminnemooseus Administrator Posts: 3959 Joined: |
Thread copied here from the strange experience at confession thread in the Proposed New Topics forum.
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Trump won ![]() Suspended Member (Idle past 562 days) Posts: 1928 Joined:
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of course I came down from the cloud i was on when i wrote this.
i will say that the sacrament of confession is being practiced incorrectly by many priests, and is causing ruination among the faithful. priests that seem to be correctly dispensing the sacrament are third world priests, especially African priests, and priests connected to an order, like the Marians, for example. i've had some atrocious confessions at local parishes, which would have caused a lesser man to turn heel on religion in general. I noticed a user made a thread about the Sacrament. a common misconception is the "only confess your sins to Christ" argument. although this argument is untrue: James told us to confess to others, the priest's role in confession is that of a representative for God the Father and Christ, and the Spirit has to be present to enable the priest to enact the forgiveness. I am not being forgiven by a priest but by God, through the Divine Mercy of the Son, and the Mysterious conveyance of grace from the Spirit. Edited by a servant of Christ, : No reason given. Edited by a servant of Christ, : No reason given. Edited by a servant of Christ, : No reason given.
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Faith ![]() Suspended Member (Idle past 766 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
We are told to confess "to one another," not to a priest. And historically the confessional has been badly misused as all kinds of personal information is given to priests who don't respect it and can use it against people. And the idea that God needs a human representative is already a horrible violation of the truth. God is there to hear us, no intermediary is required.
Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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Stile Member Posts: 4087 From: Ontario, Canada Joined: Member Rating: 5.3
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I think it's something you should investigate, then. Just remember that because something-works-for-you doesn't mean it works for everyone. In a general sense - I think the idea of confession (talking about the things you did and feel remorse about) is a very human thing to do. There are other ways, too. Finding one that works great for you is excellent.
Uh - no, it doesn't. But it doesn't "negate it" in any sense. They may not work for you - but they certainly work for many. Just find the one that works best for you, and be happy about it.
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Phat Member Posts: 16107 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.1 |
Believers...many of them anyway...believe that the best medicine for the human soul is Holy Communion with God. Since you *know* that God doesn't exist,
![]() Part of the upcoming and ongoing spiritual war on this planet is going to be one side claiming that Jesus is the only way, while the other side essentially says that whatever works for you is cool. If we are wrong that a spiritual war even exists, you have a logical argument. If, on the other hand, we are correct (which you currently have *no* evidence for) You will see the reality intensify. You likely will someday get your evidence that you seek. Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. ~RC Sproul "A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain " ~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith You can "get answers" by watching the ducks. That doesn't mean the answers are coming from them.~Ringo Subjectivism may very well undermine Christianity.
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Phat Member Posts: 16107 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.1
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While I agree that confession should be directed at God, it has been my experience that confessing to another human causes me to open up and get deeper with my own confessions, perhaps because someone is listening. Isn't the priest another human? Likely one who has studied more than I have. And one wouldn't get very far confessing to a secular scientist. They would simply refer you to a psychologist. Look, I know your misgivings about the Roman Catholic Church. Chris has a brother who is very evangelical...I look forward to having a conversation with them one day soon. Also keep in mind that God has many of his believers in the RCC as well. There is no perfect church. Many Protestant ones are far too political and worldly. They think America is the new Israel. Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. ~RC Sproul "A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain " ~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith You can "get answers" by watching the ducks. That doesn't mean the answers are coming from them.~Ringo Subjectivism may very well undermine Christianity.
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Stile Member Posts: 4087 From: Ontario, Canada Joined: Member Rating: 5.3
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This belief, when focused on themselves, can be extremely powerful and beneficial. This belief, when focused on others, can be extremely powerful - but negative.
Eh - I'd leave this in the other thread where it's context is more easily explained.
Preach?
That's exactly what I'm saying.
I think I understand what you mean - I'm just not sure if you actually understand what you mean. Don't you think that, maybe, the idea that Monotheism is better than spiritual dualism (or even "non-Monotheism") is offensive to those who don't follow Monotheism? Why should one group's "feelings of being offended" be taken as higher than another group's? Why shouldn't we all be focusing on finding a way to live together, in harmony?
If this happens, then one side will be saying: "Do it our way or it's war!!!!" Which side do you find yourself on, again?
The war will certainly exist if one side continues to push "Do it our way or it's war!!!!" Why do you think such a way should be supported over a way of peace?
I do not seek war.
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Trump won ![]() Suspended Member (Idle past 562 days) Posts: 1928 Joined: |
Hebrews 11:1-3 Living Bible (TLB)
11 What is faith? It is the confident assurance that something we want is going to happen. It is the certainty that what we hope for is waiting for us, even though we cannot see it up ahead. 2 Men of God in days of old were famous for their faith. 3 By faith—by believing God—we know that the world and the stars—in fact, all things—were made at God’s command; and that they were all made from things that can’t be seen.[a]
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Trump won ![]() Suspended Member (Idle past 562 days) Posts: 1928 Joined: |
God works through the Sacraments. You must eat my flesh and drink my blood. does this scandalize you?
the catholic church has a monopoly on the body and blood catholic church is the priesthood of melchizedek, the priests have authority to forgive sins as the apostles were given the authority to forgive sins: “Whose soever sins ye forgive, they are forgiven unto them; whose soever sins ye retain, they are retained” (Jn. 20:23). of course the catholic church believes in direct confession to God. one can make a perfect act of contrition, we use sacraments because they have authority and power, and because Christ's Divine Mercy lives in the confessional, where burdens are laid to rest. how can you get better without holding yourself accountable to man and God?
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Trump won ![]() Suspended Member (Idle past 562 days) Posts: 1928 Joined: |
evolutionary science can only guess at how, never the whys of existence
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Faith ![]() Suspended Member (Idle past 766 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Protestants have no problem with the flesh and blood of Jesus, which is given to us in our communion services. Not taken literally of course as it is in the Catholic service.
According to scripture, Melchizedek was a type of Christ Himself, who is called our High Priest, with the same authority. Human priests do not have that same authority. Isn't it true that only the bread was given to Catholics and not the wine? At least for some period of time? Protestants also confess, but to each other and to God, not to a priest. Edited by Faith, : No reason given. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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Stile Member Posts: 4087 From: Ontario, Canada Joined: Member Rating: 5.3
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I agree.
Sure.
This is just wrong.
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Stile Member Posts: 4087 From: Ontario, Canada Joined: Member Rating: 5.3
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Of course evolutionary science looks at the whys of existence. Why are babies born? Why do parents have sex? Other "whys" are better explained without evolutionary science or religion, for me.
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Phat Member Posts: 16107 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.1 |
To Wit:
Which is why I entertain all viewpoints in this matter. There is, after all, a possibility I may be wrong. I only wish that my opponents would acknowledge that obedience to a Messiah may be the right path. Both sides can imagine the world view of the other side. Our only common enemy would be personified hate/jealousy, greed for power that a potential antichrist would embody. Obedience to a Supreme Being is in now way repressive. (Unless one believes that personified evil does not exist any more than God does) Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. ~RC Sproul "A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain " ~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith You can "get answers" by watching the ducks. That doesn't mean the answers are coming from them.~Ringo Subjectivism may very well undermine Christianity.
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