Did the Flood really happen?

No he didn't."Normal" at the time, according to the story, was lifespans in the range of 900 years. Noah's age was NOT what distinguished him.

You did say YECs dishonestly count longevity as normal years. And ringo also said they are normal. On the contrast, I said it is not normal.

So, you should not treat "that" time the same as "this" time.

The only difference mentioned between that time and this time is longevity.

That is more than enough. It is not a reasonable age in biology.

Since you claim to be so good at reasoning it’s about time you laid it out. How do you get from the long life span attributed to Noah to Noah being a pre-human - and what do you think that Noah actually was?

It's nowhere near enough to draw any conclusions about the flood. Indeed not. Which means it is either an oft-repeated error or deliberate fiction. Which reinforces the idea that the flood is also fiction.It certainly does NOT mean that there was a "different nature" back then.

Glad that you finally ask.
I am going to be brief here, and see how far YOU can go. The farther you can go, the farther I try to follow.Some physical/astronomical events took place from the time of Genesis to the time of Abraham. These events modified the time frame of the earth. The time we experienced today is entirely different from the time Noah experienced.I am trying to confine the idea and argument to the realm of science as much as possible. Once you accuse me to be fictional, nonsense, or imaginary, then I will stop. This issue should be much harder on YOU than the issue of global flood. I just wonder what kind of question/comment you can make. May be none.

OK, if you do think the whole thing is fictional, then why are you still try to "reason" on the global flood? Are the arguments on sediments, erosion stuff really meaningful? That is why I want to limit the reasoning only to the flood, but not on Noah. At least you do can say something about science in that case. Once you touch the issues about Noah, at your level, you are simply asking for trouble, and can not go forward beyond the first step. Edited by Juvenissun, : No reason given.

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Glad that you finally ask.
I am going to be brief here, and see how far YOU can go. The farther you can go, the farther I try to follow

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We shouldn’t have to ask.

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Some physical/astronomical events took place from the time of Genesis to the time of Abraham. These events modified the time frame of the earth. The time we experienced today is entirely different from the time Noah experienced.

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What does this have to do with your claim that Noah was not human?
Moreover, why would the Bible use any timeframe other than that experienced on Earth?
Also, what events would do this and what evidence do you have that they occurred?

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I am trying to confine the idea and argument to the realm of science as much as possible.

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Then you had better provide good answers to the above questions. And show your reasoning. Which I asked you to do - and which you are not doing.

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Once you accuse me to be fictional, nonsense, or imaginary, then I will stop.

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It is your job to provide the evidence and reasoning to support your claims. If you do not the natural conclusion is that you are making things up. As indeed you have already done on other issues.

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This issue should be much harder on YOU than the issue of global flood. I just wonder what kind of question/comment you can make.

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It certainly isn’t any harder - in fact it seems easier. It was long ago now, but I actually took an undergraduate course in Special Relativity, so I have some know,edge of the subject.

I never said Noah is not a human. He IS a human.the Bible describes those events/features without providing explanation. The idea is: believe it or not.
It is to those people who do not believe, some scientific explanations are needed. The Bible is a Book of faith, not a book of science, even every word in the Bible is scientifically true.One very simple possibility is that the day/year in early time has different length than that of today. We count day/month/year by the rotation and orbiting of the earth. And we know those factors are not contents, but are variables. For a simple example, one day on Mars is xxx days on the earth.

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I never said Noah is not a human. He IS a human

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You have asserted that Noah was not a normal human and sufficiently different that his remains would not be identifiable as human. And that he lived at a time when - by all the evidence we have - there were no humans at all.Your vagueness doesn’t not help you, in fact it just makes you look evasive.

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the Bible describes those events/features without providing explanation. The idea is: believe it or not.
It is to those people who do not believe, some scientific explanations are needed. The Bible is a Book of faith, not a book of science, even every word in the Bible is scientifically true.

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It is not the case that every word in the Bible is scientifically true and we know that for a fact (e.g. Genesis 30:31-42 especially verses 38, 39, 41 and 42).Moreover, we do not simply need stories by which the events might happen. We need evidence that they did happen.

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One very simple possibility is that the day/year in early time has different length than that of today. We count day/month/year by the rotation and orbiting of the earth. And we know those factors are not contents, but are variables. For a simple example, one day on Mars is xxx days on the earth.

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Indeed, I suggested earlier that months and years might have gotten confused as the stories were passed down. However, the length of the year is controlled by orbital dynamics and cannot greatly change unless the Earth’s orbit changed.And I note again that you come up short on evidence, reasoning and even in explaining your ideas. That only makes it seem that you lack any confidence in your ideas - if you even have any concrete ideas.

That's a silly question. How do you think I figured out that it was fiction, unless I reasoned about it? Of course they are. We have to look at the evidence to see if the story fits. On the contrary, if the story gives a fictional age for Noah, we have to wonder what other parts of the story are fiction.

950 years old Noah is a human, but is not a normal person according to the biology today. That is what I said.It seems you stalled after my first introductory explanation on the longevity issue. Any more question can you ask about Noah's age? BTW, nobody was confused on anything about calendar. People in Noah's time counted number of day and year as precisely as we do today. That is in the realm of biology. I am pretty bad in biology. So, no comment. Try something else. To you, there should be plenty of scientific errors in the Bible. That is all because you do not understand.

Is it possible that Hugh Heffner was the 40th US president?What you seem to miss is that we have the geologic record, and there is no evidence of a recent global flood. That's what makes a recent global flood impossible.